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Covid just my thoughts and my experience.

COVID can cause problems. And the vaccine can cause problems. So I stayed unvaccinated. As far as I know I never had Covid but have been not feeling right for like two years and was sick often. I seem to have gotten better now. But things are different still for me. But then again things change with age. It seems a catch 22 thing to me.
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GeniUs · 56-60, M
Everybody will have their own opinions about Covid and I doubt any argument is going to change anybody's mind, I chose to be unvaccinated but there were so many issues that have been brushed over that getting truthful information on the whole thing is almost impossible.
One of my questions is since Covid was a big issue for over a year and the vaccines seemed to have no effect on people catching it or not, why is it no longer the same big problem? The vaccines didn't kill it and were only effective for 4 months, it supposedly kept mutating (if you believe that) so why is it no longer an issue any more than potentially catching flu?
Kstrong · 56-60, F
@GeniUs I agree with you, myself, chose the same, did get COVID and recovered... I chose what was right for me. Don't get vaccinated for the flu either.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@Kstrong Neither do I (vaccine for flu) I may change my opinion as I get older.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GeniUs if you want to get sick, just do it.

[c=BF0000][b]Coronavirus Death Toll[/b]
7,007,934 deaths
7,007,934 people have died so far from the coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak as of March 26, 2024, 01:00 GMT.

[b]There are currently 704,447,759 confirmed cases in 229 countries and territories [/b]. The fatality rate is still being assessed.[/c]
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@Diotrephes [quote]if you want to get sick, just do it.[/quote] The vaccine does not prevent catching Covid.
The vaccines have not been independently tested and proved to save people from dying of Covid, (it's probably a placebo).
if you are to believe those figures how many people were vaccinated when they died.
Do you know anybody who had adverse side effects after being vaccinated, bad enough to seek medical help and to be told to 'just live with it'? Take a moment to think for yourself and don't just swallow what governments want you to do.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GeniUs [quote]The vaccine does not prevent catching Covid.
The vaccines have not been independently tested and proved to save people from dying of Covid, (it's probably a placebo).
if you are to believe those figures how many people were vaccinated when they died.
Do you know anybody who had adverse side effects after being vaccinated, bad enough to seek medical help and to be told to 'just live with it'? Take a moment to think for yourself and don't just swallow what governments want you to do.[/quote]

I've had all of my Covid shots as well as annual flu shots for years and have never had any side effects from them. I did get the shivers from my last shingles shot, but that is a well-known side effect from the shingles vaccine. If you get a shingles shot do it when you will be off for several days.

One of the things that seem to be leading the resistance to the Covid shots is the reluctance of ultra-Orthodox Jews' refusal to get vaccinations.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10602685/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7778477/

[b]The Right to Die: Jewish Anti-Vaxxers and the Limits of Rabbinic Authority[/b]
"Anti-vaccination movements have been around for as long as there have been vaccinations. Among the earliest anti-vaxxers was an English Jew named Joseph Levy (1838–1913) who wrote two short books against vaccinations and argued for a religious exemption for Jews. This may have been the first example of a Jew claiming a religious exemption from vaccination. Vaccine denial has been documented across Europe, Asia, and the United States, and it is not surprising that it is also espoused in some Jewish communities."
https://academic.oup.com/book/44852/chapter-abstract/385053271?redirectedFrom=fulltext

[b]An Outbreak Spreads Fear: Of Measles, of Ultra-Orthodox Jews, of Anti-Semitism[/b]
A measles outbreak in a New York suburb has sickened scores of people and stoked long-smoldering tensions between the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community and the secular world at large.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/nyregion/measles-jewish-community.html

[b]"Haredi Jews were less likely to vaccinate than other Orthodox Jews but more likely to have had COVID-19 and believe vaccination was unnecessary. Distrust of COVID-19 information from health experts was high across communities, highest for Haredi Jews"[/b]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10597228/#:~:text=Haredi%20Jews%20were%20less%20likely,communities%2C%20highest%20for%20Haredi%20Jews.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@Diotrephes yep, none of that is relevant to, I'm going to speculatively say 95% of the population.
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