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So they ARE gene therapy, after all...

Another "conspiracy theory" comes true

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SW-User
It's impossible for an mRNA vaccine to be classified as a "gene therapy".

You can prove me wrong by demonstrating how an mRNA vaccine enters the cell nucleus or interacts with DNA in any way.

I'll help you - it can't do either of those things, thus isn't gene therapy.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SW-User You're not going to get through to a guy who thinks a posting on Craigslist's Rants and Raves section is a valid source. Walter is suffering from what I like to refer to as weapons grade stupidity.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SW-User I'm just counting on the words of a Big Pharma chief. I doubt that you - with all your detailed knowledge of the body's workings - know more about it than he does. There is no argument here! He said it - is he lying?
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WalterF · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire He needs to get through to this realist from Bayer. No point in shooting the messenger.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SW-User Why do I have to explain it? Are you incapable of accepting that this fully paid-up fact-checked top scientist says it, therefore it MUST be true? This is not "my claim!"
SW-User
@WalterF If you can't explain it, you don't understand it. If you don't understand it, how can you possibly know it's true.

Share your source. Show me where it says mRNA vaccines can interact with DNA.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SW-User This is incredible. The guy said it. Do you think this investigative reporter is risking his livelihood (losing career and getting sued bigtime) by MAKING THIS UP?? And why do I have to understand it to pass it on? Head in the sand!
SW-User
@WalterF You haven't shared a source. Show me where they said it.

Sorry, I don't trust your capacity for critical thought. Show me the article.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SW-User Please take the time to scroll through the comments. I believe the source has already been given. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

By the way, my capacity for critical thought has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!
1490wayb · 56-60, M
@WalterF FAKE NEWS...ELIZABETH whats her name?? bilked billionaires and fooled 60 minutes with a fake testing product
SW-User
@WalterF Don't worry about it, just found the speech. You're wrong, and have misunderstood what was said.

If you actually watch all 10 minutes, he is talking about new innovations in medicine, and what cell/gene therapies might be able to achieve in the future, comparing them to the Pfizer vaccine in terms of results. He thinks the positive results of the mRNA vaccine might open peoples eyes to other innovative medical advancements like gene therapy.

But here's the important bit - he never once says mRNA vaccines are a form of gene therapy, or that they interact with DNA.

This is what happens when stupid people share information without knowing anything about it.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SW-User More insults, is there no end to your stream? FYI, I have no time for talking heads on videos. I read the summaries produced by the analysts. The summary is posted here. Do with it what you will. But above all, avoid the cognitive dissonance that would come if you found that the wool has been pulled over your eyes for nearly two years now. You can't mentally afford to realise you've been sold lie after lie. Just keep your eyes shut.
SW-User
@WalterF Dude, you didn't even watch the speech. If you did, you'd realise that the dumb little snippet you shared was wrong. It is not once said that mRNA is gene therapy, because that's impossible if you knew anything about either.

I like to investigate, you just like to be told what to think, like a sheep.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SW-User I'll call you The Investigator from now on then. Some investigator! Laughable.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@WalterF
I read the summaries produced by the analysts

😂😂😂😂
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SW-User Because it has the word RNA, they assume it's gene therapy.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@JimboSaturn Indeed... and despite all that extensive biomedical training
WalterF · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Your own masters degree in medicine hasn't taught you much, apparently
WalterF · 70-79, M
@JimboSaturn No, I leave that job to Pfizer whistleblowers, they know possibly more than you about it
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@WalterF M.Sc. and PhD. Not in medicine, but in that general ballpark, and much more relevant to the topic at hand than medicine would be.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Among my clients as a consultant operating in France: Sanofi, Novartis, Gilead... Not as a medical consultant, but in a work-related field. I stopped at a Cambridge MA. However, no matter; it boils down to whether you are a rebel, who needs to satisfy their own desire to explore; or a meek follower, content to think that men are good and would never harm others for personal gain.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@WalterF Yes, I keep hearing about personal gain, or corporate gain, or advantage, or whatever... but never who or how.

Just vague innuendo about ‘them'
WalterF · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 The same old reasons - "they" (the supranational power units, unknown to us, usually known only by 3- or 4-letter acronyms), while hiding in plain sight, don't really want people investigating them. They have all the power and money necessary (including the purchase of full media compliance - knowing that who controls the media controls the people) to enforce their programmmes without our knowledge.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@WalterF That makes no sense... it’s just watery word-soup