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Brutally honest question: Stage four cancer is terminal right?

Most stage 4 cancer is deadly and can’t be cured. Some girl posted on her that her mother has stage four cancer and she believes her mom can fight this. I’m glad she had that positive mindset BUT she won’t accept that her mother is dying and can’t accept that it isn’t curable. I’m no sorry for what happened but I feel bad for her but she should have her mother suffering. She can’t get upset at this stuff because shit happens for a reason and she had to accept death is part of life. How can I get her to accept that stage four is terminal? She never mentioned about that. I’ve never heard of someone surviving stage four cancer. Sorry to sound harsh but it’s incurable.
bowman81 · M
Stage 4 indicates a large tumor that has spread to at least nearby tissue. Depending on the type and degree of spreading it may be survivable for an extended period of time. I have lived with family members who were forced to battle cancer. My mother was successful. The doctors took out a softball size tumor from her abdomen and told us to get ready, they gave her 6 weeks tops to live. She fought through chemo and radiation and went back to teaching school and lived another 30 yrs. and died of a stroke at the age of 89. My wife beat breast cancer but 18 yrs. later lost her life to another unrelated cancer. You never enter that battle planning to lose. You have to fight it right up to the last dying breath. At least when it is over you know you gave it your very best.

Don't be too hard on your friend. There will be plenty of time afterwards to help her pick up the pieces.
PoeticPlay · 51-55, M
I just found out last month that one of my dearests friends was diagnosed stage 4.
It has been very hard having conversations over the phone while trying to find money to get airline tickets to fly and see her before she leaves us.

It is a very, very, painful heartbreak that keeps on happening every time we talk. 💔 😢

I just pray that I am granted one last opportunity to see her smile greet me and feel her in my arms wrap around me so that we may both know love and peace when that hour comes. 😪
PetiteJulie01 · 22-25, F
@PoeticPlay oh damn I’m so sorry. I hope you get the chance to see your friend. 🙏🏾🙏🏾💖😢
My heart breaks for you.
PoeticPlay · 51-55, M
@PetiteJulie01
Thank you for your compassion for my despair.

That is what helps me get through the saddest moments which are also my most selfish and lonely feeling moments.
And if it helps me , then when it comes to another that is going through the same heartbreak, it is how I help another heart.

It is what this crazy, confusing, world needs more of right now.
Understanding and compassion.
Listening with the heart and expressing with imagination. Keeping in mind that we are ALL in this together no matter how far apart we might be on some map.

We live similar experiences and share one world.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
I'm sure she's aware of the reality of it
But she's not publicly accepting admission of defeat
Nothing wrong in that.
Often those with stage 4 need those around them to encourage the fight to live their best lives for the time they have remaining.
I think four years is the average after stage 4 diagnosis. And even then periods of remission are possible
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
I know someone that had Stage 4+ (5% chance of living) and survived. That person is still alive more than 15 years later.
PetiteJulie01 · 22-25, F
@HoraceGreenley I’m not saying she should give up believing her mom will fight it. Let’s face the facts, her mother is dying and said it herself that it doesn’t look good. She’ll have to prepare to say goodbye to mommy. She’s an adult so she should be able to handle it better than a child.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@PetiteJulie01 i don't know what the situation is. i just hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
PetiteJulie01 · 22-25, F
SnailTeeth · 36-40
You can't free people from the chains to which they cling.
She's going through the storm, and it will undoubtedly change her.
Just be there to listen, support, find ways to celebrate the small things and make light. I'm sure she's already grappling with her own doubts and fears, she doesn't need those affirmed.
When I lost my granddad (who was more like a dad to me), I lost myself. I thought I had to be someone else, someone to take his place. I think everyone goes through it in their own way.
One of the hardest parts, is realising you don't have that safety net anymore. It's hard replacing such love, esp. since most of us only get 2 or fewer parents.
TexChik · F
unfortunately yes. Stage four indicates distant metastases and a failure of the treatment to control its spread.
PetiteJulie01 · 22-25, F
@TexChik I not being a Karen! Why is that even a damn term?!
Carissimi · 70-79, F
You really are a piece of work. It’s none of your business how someone else deals with grief and loss. You sound like a control freak, or a troll. @PetiteJulie01
TexChik · F
@PetiteJulie01 to explain people like you and your behavior .
There are many variables to consider, it may seem incurable but remission can happen.
PetiteJulie01 · 22-25, F
@MorriganoftheNight what do you mean remission?
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
Stage 4 is just about end stage
PetiteJulie01 · 22-25, F
@TexChik I’m not forcing her! I’m just saying she needs to accept that her mother won’t survive and will pass away. YOU said it yourself treatment fails to help. Her mother is going to die. She needs to be a grown up and accept it.
TexChik · F
@PetiteJulie01 She needs to love and cherish her mother as long as possible and hold on to hope . She is about to go through something more horrible than her own death, and that is the death of her beloved mother and what life is like without her in it. Its a horrible thing to experience and I have only empathy for that sweet girl as she suffers through this .
PetiteJulie01 · 22-25, F
@TexChik yes you are right. I feel bad for her
elafina · 36-40, F
I don't think it's the right timing for anything brutal, even if that's honesty.
Everyone has the right to handle their personal experiences the way they want and not be told how they should accept anything.
Also sometimes, accepting the facts might mean you're limiting the chances for something different. Not everyone operates with the same way. She's fighting right now and perhaps doesn't need to be reminded of the "reality". Let the girl be. She's having it tough already.
Musicman · 61-69, M
People can live with it. I have an acquaintance with stage four cancer and he has lived two years with it now.
BOREDAFPA · 41-45, M
Typically it is but if you receive the right treatment or the right amount it can go into remission
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Not always. Deponds upon location. Pancreatic or liver is fata.
Wiseacre · F
Not unusual she thinks that way. Many ppl live for yrs with stage four, provided it's slow growing, not aggressive.
HannahSky · F
Depends on the cancer and how treatment has gone. Doesn't sound great. Education from a doctor might be helpful.
You are stage 4 cancer.
https://similarworlds.com/relationships/no-problem-interracial/4769075-I-hate-to-sound-very-blunt-but-everyone-should-stick-within

 
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