So have you seen Putins wish list? I mean the US peace plan?

Give Russia the territory it holds. Halve the Ukraine Military. No long range Ukraine missiles. No membership to NATO and Russian as an official language... And these are Trumps conditions. Not Russias....So how do Americans feel about the leader of the free world now?? Is there any American stupid enough to believe Trump isnt in Putins pocket?😷

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FreddieUK · 70-79, M

I think this is a good example of Trump's capitulation in the face of a equally self-serving antagonist. There should be no surprise, since this has been Trump's approach to Putin since he first stood for election. I hope other allies will now be able to show some practical support.

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ElwoodBlues · M

@SchoolBelle Tяump's Dilemma

KiwiBird · 36-40, F

Somehow I don't think Ukraine will oblige. Trump has threatened to cut Ukraine off from all military assistance including intel if they do not agree.

If Russia then.....takes all of Ukraine. Trump will blame Zelensky.

Trump is betraying America, NAT0 and Ukraine....everyone but Russia.

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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@SchoolBelle Its a long punt from the Marshall plan to the Trump plan.. But its not like people didnt know exactly who he was before they voted him in the first time. Bringing him back after seeing his first term just means more Americans were OK with it..😷

Khenpal1 · M

actually , us congress will have to oprove it , not likekly to happen.

Khenpal1 · M

@KiwiBird Ukraine Army will remove Zelensky if he agrees .

Nanoose · 70-79, M

After all those crappy alternatives Trump gave Ukraine or he will cut off weapon sales - Trump is now saying it’s not his final offer. I think once again Trump showed the world he is on Russia’s side. Cheers and happy weekend!

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Nanoose Its amazing how a little thing like owing russian banks a few hundred million dollars and having them own a lot of your real estate can make you see things russias way..😷

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Khenpal1 · M

Just let him dream 😂

BritishFailedAesthetic · M

Imagine if it was suggested we'd have done that with Nazi Germany....

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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@BritishFailedAesthetic Of course.. And Trump is still trying to sell this as a good deal. Its just Putins wish list. Trump can huff and puff all he wants. He has pretty well screwed America in the world for allies. NATO doesnt care if America leaves at this point..Then they will only have the Saudis and Israelis to sell military hardware to..😷

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@whowasthatmaskedman Yes, I concur. This list is merely Russia's initial demands in 2022.
That incompetent, inexperienced, Witkoff met alone with Russia and emerged waving this 'peace for our time' nonsense.
It's obvious that King Donald, sitting in his Throne Room in Trump Castle, wants to use this as a pretext to shut down arms and intel to Ukraine. I will say it again - there is a modern von Ribbentrop-Molotov pact to divide the spoils from a destroyed Ukraine, and this time it's between the US and russia.

America's shame and humiliation grows worse every day.

Ukraine now leads the Free World - which no longer includes the US.

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Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

Same demand as always: Ukraine has to surrender for “peace.” But, it’s not peace, just a pause in Russian aggression so Trump can claim victory.

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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F

Ho, ho, ho! 🎅

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