I am trying to figure out who are they fighting with. I look at a map of the country and is Gaza apart of the country or are they another country. I thought Gaza was just a big city or something
Israel is carved up into Israel as a country, and then increasingly fragmented land around it outside of Israel's borders, but not in another country. This is the Palestinian territories. West Bank and Gaza.
Keep in mind, Israel is a country with normal country stuff. Palestinian territory is NOT a country, and they are occupied by Israel, so Israel everything that goes in and out. Life in the territories is often intolerable and a lot of people are killed by Israel.
The current conflict is between Israel, and a Palestinian organization called Hamas.
And Hamas want to destroy Israel and get their land back. So Hamas have a history of attacking Israel in any way they can, frequently through acts of terrorism. This is in response to Israel causing a lot of death and destruction in the Palestinian territories but "who started it" doesn't matter at this point.
@jackieash The Romans named the area "Syria Palaestina" to poke the Jews in the eye by naming it after their ancient enemies, the Philistines. The area was generally referred to as "Palestine" until Israel was established. But it was never an independent country once the Romans defeated the Hasmoneans. After Roman rule, it was controlled by various Arab empires, the Crusaders, and more recently as part of the Ottoman Empire, then the British Mandate after World War One. The concept of "Palestinian Arab" didn't exist until the early part of the last century as a reaction to Jewish immigration from Europe and Zionism, which is nothing more than the belief that there should be a Jewish homeland in that area.
Here's the chain of events you gotta understand. Forgive me if I get shit wrong, 'cause I'm really not a history buff. This is simplified ofc, I just want to give you a general idea.
1. After the Holocaust, a lot of Jewish people really wanted to have their own country to guarantee that they'd be free of persecution. 2. The UK happened to control the historical territory which used to be Israel, which by that time was populated by Arabs. Jewish people had been independently migrating to the area for some time. The UK and UN agreed to create an independent state of Israel, and Israel declared independence. 3. As Israel was established, there was a war between Israel and Arabs (both within the territory of Israel and nearby Arab countries). The Arab people inhabiting that land were forcibly deported and/or fled their homes, which were subsequently destroyed. They fled to Gaza and the West Bank, areas which are now collectively known as Palestine, and the people there are the Palestinians. 'Palestine' can also mean the whole country, but in contemporary politics, it's typically defined along ethnic and legal lines. Palestine doesn't belong to Israel, but Israel results various levels of military control over it. 4. Israel started building settlements in Palestine and continued the forcible removal of Palestinians. 5. Resistance movements in Palestine rose up. These movements ranged from crazed terrorists to secular independence movements. The Israeli government snuffed out the latter in favor of the former, believing the crazy terrorists would garner less international legitimacy and recognition. 6. The terrorist group Hamas would go on to take control over Palestine. That is the organization Israel is officially at war with.
There are No winners of Either side So Too are No real winners..,given the extensive history and how things were created
I do Sypithise with those jews Yet so too am unsure as to the "creation" of Israeli
I actually myself Have a very good friend..whose parents shipped him out with the rest of the family ( parents remained behind ) His parents did this..,Due to the Radical training Palestinians were subject to ( at age 8 he was being trained to jump scale ropes from a helicopter..with ak47 in hand and this was in mid 70's )
As Such Can one Blame those so Drilled and so Raised ? I Still Question the Legalities of the Creation of Israel itself
Yet Here we are Decades later The Only winners here..is No One The Losers are EveryOne
In order to understand the middle east you have to read the Bible. It starts in genisus and ends in Revelation. Abraham had two sons Ishmael by Hagar and Isaac by his wife Sarah. Isaac was God's promised seed. It all goes back to Satan vs Almighty God. That is a spiritual warfare over there. The Bible will help you understand what is happening.
@Baremine Possibly... provided you account for its vaguely-historical parts to have been written by the Hebrews themselves - including their self-justifying pretence that God "gave" them the land they settled.
However, that was well over 2000 years ago. What really counts today is what happened in 1948.
None of this excuses Hamas' amoral orgy of blood-letting though.
It's not just the Palestinians nor the Hamas organization. Remove Hamas you leave open another terrorist (Muslim) organization.
Go back to the story of Jericho. Then continue to how and why the Roman empire removed the Jewish people from the area.
Before Jericho it was called Canaan. And were as far as Syria and down to Egypt.
So you have sympathizers in every Arab nation. They won't stop until Israel is totally gone. They were the ones helping the Romans to get rid of the Jewish people.
Anything done to Hamas just will only cause some other terrorist organization fill in. Hamas first started in Egypt!
Remove Hamas then perhaps ISIS (Iranian) or another will fill in. 🤷🏻♂️
The Taliban was formed similarly in Pakistan. Who knows who would replace Hamas? Or even if Hamas is centralized just in Palestine! 🤷🏻♂️
Egypt is awfully close to there. The gaza "strip" goes to the border of Egypt.
Gaza is a piece of land between Israel and Egypt, where many Palestinians are crowded together. Back when Israel was created after WW II< they also created a Palestinian state, but they have found four--five now--wars between the Palestinians and Israel, Israel has won each and taken control of the Palestinian lands, occupied them. Now Gaza is cut off from both Egypt and Israel and crowded, lots of problems there and unrest, and this is mostly fed up younger people striking back at Israel, who they have been taught to hate. In my opinion, as long as there is not an independent Palestinian state they will fight these wars.
@Docdon23 No they didn't create a Palestinian state. The UN split the region into Isreal and Jordan. Then there are uncivilized savages that even the Arab states reject calling themselves Palestinians (after Philistines)
I drew on a map to explain easier. The war is about Jews verses Arab's. Fighting about the Gaza and Jerusalem territory.
Before 1948, Palestine was home to a diverse population of Arabs, Jews, and Christians, as all groups had religious ties to the area, especially the city of Jerusalem.
💙 The Jews (Palestinians) see Israel as a whole as their ancient homeland which is mentioned many times in their bibles. They were promised Gaza (without Israel's permission.) by UK after world War 2. Hamas is their terrorist organization that attacked Israel once again a few days ago.
💜 The Arab's (Israelis) had Israel declared a state in 1948. When the Jews arrived the Arabs refused to share the area of Israel and Jerusalem which was the last solution Britain had. Britain left the power to the two opponents in the land.
When the Arabic population was once attacked by Palestinian Hamas last Saturday, they responded by cutting out the water and electricity for Palestinians in Gaza. As a strategy to force Hamas to stop attacking Arabs.
To make it even more complicated, 20% of Israel's population isn't even Jewish. They're Palestinians whose grandparents didn't leave when Israel became a nation, so they're citizens with representation in the Knesset.
Reading the Old Testament there are lots of stories about those that didn't follow the prophets. Many of those married away from the other Jews. Eventually they became Islamic like the whole region did under British rule. So, Israel is really fighting relatives, but neither side admits that. Extremeism made the mess.
The entire nation of Israel is on land that was confiscated from Jordan to make a nation state for Israel. Some people who lived in those lands refused to leave and really hate the Jews. Over the decades they have remained in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank…. They still hate the Jews but they remain and so the troubles continue.
@Muthafukajones Hatred and fear of Jews as “the other” is not unique to Israel and the Middle East.
Even in supposedly enlightened places like the US, people often use antisemitic tropes like Jews control money and banking and Jews control the media. I’ve seen such ideas expressed on this very website.
Ever hear someone talk about being jewed down on a price or being jewed out of their money? How do you think it feels for a Jewish person to hear that?
Antisemitism is world’s oldest and most virulent form of hatred.
