ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I stand with Greenland, but I have to admit I am confused exactly what its status is -- independent and yet somehow part of Denmark?
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Charity · 70-79
@ChipmunkErnie
Sort of like Puerto Rico and some of the islands are under the United States but yet separate countries / territories.
Why is Greenland part of the Kingdom of Denmark? A Short History | DIIS https://share.google/oRqiVKrGFBk1yCh1N
Sort of like Puerto Rico and some of the islands are under the United States but yet separate countries / territories.
Why is Greenland part of the Kingdom of Denmark? A Short History | DIIS https://share.google/oRqiVKrGFBk1yCh1N
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Charity Puerto Rico is a territory, not a separate country. Puerto Ricans are US citizens.
Charity · 70-79
@ChipmunkErnie
Territory / country very little difference one has complete control the other one has limited control of their own government. But for people like you I'll add territory so that they won't be confused
Puerto Rico has its own government, though limited self-rule.
And I never said Puerto Ricans were not US citizens.
And for the record Greenland are citizens of Denmark and is self-governing
Apparently you don't know what ""sort of like means""
Territory / country very little difference one has complete control the other one has limited control of their own government. But for people like you I'll add territory so that they won't be confused
Puerto Rico has its own government, though limited self-rule.
And I never said Puerto Ricans were not US citizens.
And for the record Greenland are citizens of Denmark and is self-governing
Apparently you don't know what ""sort of like means""
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Greenland is part of Denmark. A few years ago Denmark and Canada were at loggerheads with each other fighting over a tiny island between Greenland and Canada. I don't remember who won the spat and to be honest don't care.
Phaethon · 46-50, M
I think the orange dragon wants it because Russia has significantly built up its Arctic military infrastructure, with bases and airfields like Nagurskoye in Alexandra Land, which are geographically closer to Greenland. We are preparing for the next world war but people are too worried about pronouns to see it coming.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@ArishMell It doesn't really matter what the military necessities are. Retired US generals have pointed out in interviews even on the infamous Fox news that Trump doesn't need to annex or buy Greenland in order to have bases there. This is something that anyone with the slightest interest in the region has been aware of for half a century. Trump is not interested in the welfare of the USA or of any other country, only in his own wealth and his standing with those people who can make him feel good.
What really worries me is that much of his behaviour is enabled by the US constitution (that doesn't mean that it is lawful) and this combined with the more or less religious attitude to the document in the US probably means that now that Pandora's box has been opened that there might be no way to close it, not even to keep hope. So even if we can assume that Trump will not be able to serve a third term there is no guarantee that subsequent governments of either stripe will fix the problems. Being able to wield this kind of power will be attractive to all subsequent presidents, or at least their hangers on, regardless of their nominal politics.
What really worries me is that much of his behaviour is enabled by the US constitution (that doesn't mean that it is lawful) and this combined with the more or less religious attitude to the document in the US probably means that now that Pandora's box has been opened that there might be no way to close it, not even to keep hope. So even if we can assume that Trump will not be able to serve a third term there is no guarantee that subsequent governments of either stripe will fix the problems. Being able to wield this kind of power will be attractive to all subsequent presidents, or at least their hangers on, regardless of their nominal politics.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Vice President Vance is a US Marine, was assigned as a combat correspondent during an overseas deployment, saw combat
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 He was, yes. I wondered what sort of military advice the President can call on from his most senior politicians.
ElwoodBlues · M
Republican senator Mitch McConnell says:
We already have everything we need.
Greenland already cooperates.
Our Arctic access already exists.
What Trump is proposing isn't strategy, it's burning allied trust for nothing.
"Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies" is not strength. It's self-sabotage.
We already have everything we need.
Greenland already cooperates.
Our Arctic access already exists.
What Trump is proposing isn't strategy, it's burning allied trust for nothing.
"Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies" is not strength. It's self-sabotage.
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swirlie · 31-35
@pdockal
See what I mean, pdockal? Your delivery of your intended thought got buried somewhere in the weeds of your mind, which means that your original point was never made. That's what I tried to tell you, but my observations that were conveyed to you went right over your head as usual.
See what I mean, pdockal? Your delivery of your intended thought got buried somewhere in the weeds of your mind, which means that your original point was never made. That's what I tried to tell you, but my observations that were conveyed to you went right over your head as usual.
ElwoodBlues · M
@pdockal says
You're missing the point. All other administrations who have considered Greenland have gone through proper diplomatic channels.
NONE of those prior admins proposed "Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies." Not just one ally, mind you, but thirty one loyal NATO allies.
I'm saying that merely trying these threats on our loyal NATO allies is having direct negative consequences. That's a far cry from "won't accomplish anything."
Need an example? Back in early December, tRump crowed "Twenty-one trillion dollars will be the amount invested in the United States — or committed to invest — in one year."
That was his version of the agreements he had made in exchange for greatly reducing tariffs. His number is YUGELY inflated of course, perhaps by a factor of four, but still, it was something.
Now it has gone up in smoke. tRump broke his tariff agreements, so the related investment agreements are now null and void.
See what I mean about direct negative consequences?? That's a far cry from "won't accomplish anything."
Your missing the point
You're missing the point. All other administrations who have considered Greenland have gone through proper diplomatic channels.
NONE of those prior admins proposed "Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies." Not just one ally, mind you, but thirty one loyal NATO allies.
I do agree that the methods being used are highly suspect and probably won't accomplish anything
You do completely misinterpret me!!I'm saying that merely trying these threats on our loyal NATO allies is having direct negative consequences. That's a far cry from "won't accomplish anything."
Need an example? Back in early December, tRump crowed "Twenty-one trillion dollars will be the amount invested in the United States — or committed to invest — in one year."
That was his version of the agreements he had made in exchange for greatly reducing tariffs. His number is YUGELY inflated of course, perhaps by a factor of four, but still, it was something.
Now it has gone up in smoke. tRump broke his tariff agreements, so the related investment agreements are now null and void.
See what I mean about direct negative consequences?? That's a far cry from "won't accomplish anything."
pdockal · 56-60, M
No, Greenland is not a fully standalone country; it's a self-governing territory within the Kingdom of Denmark.
Greenland has been under the protection of NATO, of which the US and Denmark are both members. Nevertheless, the Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed acquiring Greenland in 1955
Declaring itself a "near-Arctic state" in 2018, China has sought to build a "Polar Silk Road". It is particularly interested in Greenland’s rare earth minerals, which are vital for green technologies and currently dominated by Chinese markets
Russia maintains several military installations in the region and considers the Arctic vital to its defense. It has recently restored Soviet-era infrastructure and increased its naval and air activity near Greenland
Greenland has been under the protection of NATO, of which the US and Denmark are both members. Nevertheless, the Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed acquiring Greenland in 1955
Declaring itself a "near-Arctic state" in 2018, China has sought to build a "Polar Silk Road". It is particularly interested in Greenland’s rare earth minerals, which are vital for green technologies and currently dominated by Chinese markets
Russia maintains several military installations in the region and considers the Arctic vital to its defense. It has recently restored Soviet-era infrastructure and increased its naval and air activity near Greenland
It wont matter what anybody "stands with" it isn't up to Walmart shoppers to make these decisions.
I'm a little confused if it's an independent country or if it's under Denmark...
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@sstronaut It's a self-governing autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark
@ninalanyon Which means it's technically not an independent country, correct?
Not trying to make any additional points, just trying to understand weather it's a country or territory, but maybe it's not that simple.
Either way, America should be happy just being allowed to have the current Military bases there, and not want more.
Not trying to make any additional points, just trying to understand weather it's a country or territory, but maybe it's not that simple.
Either way, America should be happy just being allowed to have the current Military bases there, and not want more.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@sstronaut There's no 'technically' about. It is not an independent country.. It is not currently a country at all. If one were to call it a country it could only be in the same sense that Scotland is a country but that is a usage that I think is now confined to internal use in the United Kingdom, and some sports.
Charity · 70-79
Let's see what happens if trump makes a move on Greenland.
Ukraine is not a part of NATO - Denmark / Greenland is a member of NATO - that maybe makes the difference
Ukraine is not a part of NATO - Denmark / Greenland is a member of NATO - that maybe makes the difference
Charity · 70-79
@ArishMell
No one said or indicated Putin's attack on Ukraine was legal.
If the US tries to take Greenland by force that is illegal too
My initial statement and it's connection is:
The only reason why NATO has an intervened in what Russia is doing to the Ukraine is because Ukraine is not a part of NATO.
Greenland is a part of NATO and even though the United States is a part of NATO, for US to make a hostile military act against Greenland is going against NATO and NATO is sworn to defend all countries up under to them.
No one said or indicated Putin's attack on Ukraine was legal.
If the US tries to take Greenland by force that is illegal too
My initial statement and it's connection is:
The only reason why NATO has an intervened in what Russia is doing to the Ukraine is because Ukraine is not a part of NATO.
Greenland is a part of NATO and even though the United States is a part of NATO, for US to make a hostile military act against Greenland is going against NATO and NATO is sworn to defend all countries up under to them.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Sidewinder It is! :)
Khenpal1 · M
@Sidewinder It was during Vikings before internet , you had to make it green 🤣
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
Love the rabid left .
They want to pretend trump is the only one after Venezuela, Greenland..
China and Russia arnt interested… ?
Just let them take them?
They just added Canada and carney to their collection.
Any faux outrage there? 🤔
They want to pretend trump is the only one after Venezuela, Greenland..
China and Russia arnt interested… ?
Just let them take them?
They just added Canada and carney to their collection.
Any faux outrage there? 🤔
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@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout correct assessment!
Mudkip · 31-35, M
@Bravely
It's cute though how they wanna make a stance. It's admirable, I'll give them that.
It’s about the people who live in their own country having the right to determine their own future.
Clearly they can't defend their own country(if you can even call it that). And who are we kidding, the US military could wipe out Germany, Denmark and Greenland going at 10%It's cute though how they wanna make a stance. It's admirable, I'll give them that.
Mcmarie90 · 31-35, F
Greenland's owned by Denmark though. That's why NATO is involved.
idontcareok · 70-79, M
seems you like oil, what you use it for?? oil turns into vaseline. are you happy using it?
durinsBane1983 · 46-50, M
it's ' irrelevant' what you think or post, you're dealing with the most powerful figure on earth, who are you?
Bravely · 56-60, F
@durinsBane1983 wow such a brave little guy, your daddy Trump must be so proud lil buddy,
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Isn’t that what Europe said about Ukraine ?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
American people took the Indian lands with the same shameless mighty might!
I sure hope something stops the USA.
I sure hope something stops the USA.
FoolishLuna · 56-60, F
Trump wants NATO to collapse and Russia is behind him all the way🤷♀
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Khenpal1 · M
its not about Greenland or other land , a country with almost 39 trillions in debt wants to buy something with fake money 🤣
Bravely · 56-60, F
So all the Trump simps are spouting their predictable nonsense, peppered with the obvious tedious insults.
Honestly can’t you be a bit more original?
Anyway, we all know it’s about oil.
It’s always about oil.
Honestly can’t you be a bit more original?
Anyway, we all know it’s about oil.
It’s always about oil.
Bravely · 56-60, F
@sunsporter1649
wtf are you on about
Is your idea of global democracy the idea that the only way to exist in this world is to take anything you want by force?
What happened to self determination? Democracy? The rule of law? Dear Lord
wtf are you on about
Is your idea of global democracy the idea that the only way to exist in this world is to take anything you want by force?
What happened to self determination? Democracy? The rule of law? Dear Lord
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Bravely You prefer the ruskies and chicoms getting it, eh
Khenpal1 · M
@sunsporter1649 Your orange king says its Nobel price 🤣
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Sigh. It’s not independent. Fail post.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
The military will be following illegal orders if they invade. They should refuse.
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
BUT, when someone believes they are GOD
swirlie · 31-35
No, it's not about oil either. Greenland is nothing more than a smokescreen for Trump's otherwise hidden connection to the Jeffery Epstein file.
swirlie · 31-35
Don't worry about Greenland. Trump is only using his threats of annexation as a smoke screen for his Jeffery Epstein coverup.
































