Roundandroundwego · 61-69
American people took the Indian lands with the same shameless mighty might!
I sure hope something stops the USA.
I sure hope something stops the USA.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Greenland is part of Denmark. A few years ago Denmark and Canada were at loggerheads with each other fighting over a tiny island between Greenland and Canada. I don't remember who won the spat and to be honest don't care.
Phaethon · 46-50, M
I think the orange dragon wants it because Russia has significantly built up its Arctic military infrastructure, with bases and airfields like Nagurskoye in Alexandra Land, which are geographically closer to Greenland. We are preparing for the next world war but people are too worried about pronouns to see it coming.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon I wonder who if anyone advises the man, within his own government, civil-service and military?
I looked at the military c.v. of each of James Vance, Peter Hegseth and Donald Trump.
Vance was a military journalist, in the Army but non-combatant.
Hegseth has served on active Army duty.
Trump's "military" experience is limited to school or college cadet forces.
I looked at the military c.v. of each of James Vance, Peter Hegseth and Donald Trump.
Vance was a military journalist, in the Army but non-combatant.
Hegseth has served on active Army duty.
Trump's "military" experience is limited to school or college cadet forces.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@ArishMell It doesn't really matter what the military necessities are. Retired US generals have pointed out in interviews even on the infamous Fox news that Trump doesn't need to annex or buy Greenland in order to have bases there. This is something that anyone with the slightest interest in the region has been aware of for half a century. Trump is not interested in the welfare of the USA or of any other country, only in his own wealth and his standing with those people who can make him feel good.
What really worries me is that much of his behaviour is enabled by the US constitution (that doesn't mean that it is lawful) and this combined with the more or less religious attitude to the document in the US probably means that now that Pandora's box has been opened that there might be no way to close it, not even to keep hope. So even if we can assume that Trump will not be able to serve a third term there is no guarantee that subsequent governments of either stripe will fix the problems. Being able to wield this kind of power will be attractive to all subsequent presidents, or at least their hangers on, regardless of their nominal politics.
What really worries me is that much of his behaviour is enabled by the US constitution (that doesn't mean that it is lawful) and this combined with the more or less religious attitude to the document in the US probably means that now that Pandora's box has been opened that there might be no way to close it, not even to keep hope. So even if we can assume that Trump will not be able to serve a third term there is no guarantee that subsequent governments of either stripe will fix the problems. Being able to wield this kind of power will be attractive to all subsequent presidents, or at least their hangers on, regardless of their nominal politics.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I stand with Greenland, but I have to admit I am confused exactly what its status is -- independent and yet somehow part of Denmark?
pdockal · 56-60, M
No, Greenland is not a fully standalone country; it's a self-governing territory within the Kingdom of Denmark.
Greenland has been under the protection of NATO, of which the US and Denmark are both members. Nevertheless, the Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed acquiring Greenland in 1955
Declaring itself a "near-Arctic state" in 2018, China has sought to build a "Polar Silk Road". It is particularly interested in Greenland’s rare earth minerals, which are vital for green technologies and currently dominated by Chinese markets
Russia maintains several military installations in the region and considers the Arctic vital to its defense. It has recently restored Soviet-era infrastructure and increased its naval and air activity near Greenland
Greenland has been under the protection of NATO, of which the US and Denmark are both members. Nevertheless, the Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed acquiring Greenland in 1955
Declaring itself a "near-Arctic state" in 2018, China has sought to build a "Polar Silk Road". It is particularly interested in Greenland’s rare earth minerals, which are vital for green technologies and currently dominated by Chinese markets
Russia maintains several military installations in the region and considers the Arctic vital to its defense. It has recently restored Soviet-era infrastructure and increased its naval and air activity near Greenland
ElwoodBlues · M
Republican senator Mitch McConnell says:
We already have everything we need.
Greenland already cooperates.
Our Arctic access already exists.
What Trump is proposing isn't strategy, it's burning allied trust for nothing.
"Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies" is not strength. It's self-sabotage.
We already have everything we need.
Greenland already cooperates.
Our Arctic access already exists.
What Trump is proposing isn't strategy, it's burning allied trust for nothing.
"Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies" is not strength. It's self-sabotage.
ElwoodBlues · M
@pdockal says
And how many of those four admins proposed "Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies"?? Not just one ally, mind you, but thirty two loyal NATO allies.
C'mon, how many of those four admins proposed crossing 32 allies to get Greenland??
four distinct U.S. presidential administrations have officially or formally explored the acquisition
And how many of those four admins proposed "Incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies"?? Not just one ally, mind you, but thirty two loyal NATO allies.
C'mon, how many of those four admins proposed crossing 32 allies to get Greenland??
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@sstronaut It's a self-governing autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark
@ninalanyon Which means it's technically not an independent country, correct?
Not trying to make any additional points, just trying to understand weather it's a country or territory, but maybe it's not that simple.
Either way, America should be happy just being allowed to have the current Military bases there, and not want more.
Not trying to make any additional points, just trying to understand weather it's a country or territory, but maybe it's not that simple.
Either way, America should be happy just being allowed to have the current Military bases there, and not want more.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@sstronaut There's no 'technically' about. It is not an independent country.. It is not currently a country at all. If one were to call it a country it could only be in the same sense that Scotland is a country but that is a usage that I think is now confined to internal use in the United Kingdom, and some sports.
Charity · 70-79
@ArishMell
No one said or indicated Putin's attack on Ukraine was legal.
If the US tries to take Greenland by force that is illegal too
My initial statement and it's connection is:
The only reason why NATO has an intervened in what Russia is doing to the Ukraine is because Ukraine is not a part of NATO.
Greenland is a part of NATO and even though the United States is a part of NATO, for US to make a hostile military act against Greenland is going against NATO and NATO is sworn to defend all countries up under to them.
No one said or indicated Putin's attack on Ukraine was legal.
If the US tries to take Greenland by force that is illegal too
My initial statement and it's connection is:
The only reason why NATO has an intervened in what Russia is doing to the Ukraine is because Ukraine is not a part of NATO.
Greenland is a part of NATO and even though the United States is a part of NATO, for US to make a hostile military act against Greenland is going against NATO and NATO is sworn to defend all countries up under to them.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
Khenpal1 · M
@Sidewinder It was during Vikings before internet , you had to make it green 🤣
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
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@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout correct assessment!
Mudkip · 31-35, M
@Bravely
It's cute though how they wanna make a stance. It's admirable, I'll give them that.
It’s about the people who live in their own country having the right to determine their own future.
Clearly they can't defend their own country(if you can even call it that). And who are we kidding, the US military could wipe out Germany, Denmark and Greenland going at 10%It's cute though how they wanna make a stance. It's admirable, I'll give them that.
idontcareok · 70-79, M
seems you like oil, what you use it for?? oil turns into vaseline. are you happy using it?
durinsBane1983 · 46-50, M
it's ' irrelevant' what you think or post, you're dealing with the most powerful figure on earth, who are you?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Isn’t that what Europe said about Ukraine ?
FoolishLuna · 56-60, F
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Khenpal1 · M
its not about Greenland or other land , a country with almost 39 trillions in debt wants to buy something with fake money 🤣
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Bravely spout spout spout!!! Spout some more!
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Bravely You prefer the ruskies and chicoms getting it, eh
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ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
BUT, when someone believes they are GOD