It hit early in Oklahoma, maybe not all that early but considering that we had a really warm September and it didn’t cool down much in Oklahoma like usual it hit us all at once. It takes time to adjust to cold weather. Had to pull out my winter gloves, scarfs, etc. to go outside yesterday.
@cherokeepatti We are 67 degrees at the moment. I have to doors open and it's like having free air conditioning as a gentle breeze blows through the house.
[quote]but I've yet to hear a rational explanation of how miniscule increases in an atmospheric trace gas such as CO2, causes the earth to warm.[/quote] It's because CO2 & methane are transparent to visible light but more opaque to infrared. The solar energy comes pouring in via the visible spectrum, but the heat can't leave so easily via the infrared spectrum due to that opacity. Kids' version: https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/explainer-co2-and-other-greenhouse-gases idealized quantitative model: https://www.climate-policy-watcher.org/coriolis-force/a-simple-mathematical-model-of-the-greenhouse-effect.html
[quote] In order to actually prove human carbon emissions influence climate, all variables would have to remain constant[/quote] Nope. With multiple data points we can solve for multiple variables simultaneously. Detailed climate models account for all the variables you list and more. They are verified and calibrated based on 700,000 years of prior climate data. http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/climate.html
[quote] Global warming models are based on small amounts of data. The earth is 4.6 billion years old, and we are expected to believe they can draw conclusions based on a hockey stick graph with 50 years of data?[/quote] Nope, not 50 years, 800,000 years, covering about 7 ice ages. The climate data comes from bubbles in glacial ice, and is corroborated by data from lake & sea floor sediments. https://icecores.org/about-ice-cores CO2 & methane & temp data Here's [i]where[/i] the various data sets were collected: The most salient thing about the 800,000 years of climate data is the rate of change during those previous 7 ice ages compared to the current rate of change this century.
[quote] Where does the money for climate research come from?[/quote] Fair question - it comes mostly from the National Science Foundation. Equally fair: where does the money for climate denial come from? The US oil industry makes about $110 [i]billion[/i] per year; coal another $20 billion. Big Oil spends $3.6 billion per year on advertising; a sum equal to about 8X the whole NSF climate budget. You're not naive enough to believe [i]none[/i] of that money goes to propaganda, are you?
@HumanEarth are you using a wood stove or outdoor wood furnace? as for my Wisconsin connection, I lived Milwaukee for a bit over a year and commuted all the way up to Kohler everyday to work at The American Club
@FreestyleArt They called August the dog days of August. Every day that month would have a race to see if the temperature or the humidity would hit 100 first. Usually it was a tie. ☹️
Breakfast meaning or not,its just above freezing here,Toronto is an icebox and generally the whole Northern tier of the country is an icicle..Novembrrrrrr
@Musicman People who have lived in both Oklahoma and Colorado told me that Oklahoma’s cold is much worse than Colorado’s cold winters. I don’t know what the difference is but everyone I know who has lived in both states has said the same thing. It’s miserable to be outdoors here in the winter unless a rare warm front has arrived.
idealized quantitative model: https://www.climate-policy-watcher.org/coriolis-force/a-simple-mathematical-model-of-the-greenhouse-effect.html
http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/climate.html
