I wonder how many people who claim to follow jesus christ
Actually live by his teachings
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Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic what's nuanced about Give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with the food that is needful for me, lest I be full and deny you and say, ‘Who is the LORD?’
@Guitarman123 We're forgetting the main part- salvation through Christ. Also socialist countries persecute Christians.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I'm simply asking the question about how can someone who claims to follow Christ yet advocate capitalism
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic so their weren't any witnesses?
Iwillwait · M
@Guitarman123 there were witnesses.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Iwillwait names?
BibleData · M
His teachings were, to a great extent, exchanged for pagan mythology. Alexander the Great influenced the Jews in 332 BCE and Constantine the Great did the same with Christianity in 325 CE. As his teachings were exchanged the result was confusion necessitating a sort of pretense. The new Pagan influenced "Christians" had to invent what was good and put on a show to that effect. Now everyone thinks the fake show is the reality. It really is the repeating of what Adam had done in deciding to disobey, to sin against his creator. He decided that he should decide for himself what is good and what is bad.
So, all of these great expectations are placed on them. They, not seeing it, know they can't keep the show up, and everyone outside can dismiss the reality on the basis of the pretense which, ironically, is again, just doing what Adam did. It just gives the skeptic a false justification.
The word devil means slanderer, liar. Satan means resistor or adversary. So Satan the Devil the disobedient angel is called, and the Bible says he is the God of the world, but the world will perish. The meek will inherit the earth and live forever upon it. They are the ones seeing through the pretense. Who don't want the pretense, but want the truth buried like a treasure beneath it.
So, all of these great expectations are placed on them. They, not seeing it, know they can't keep the show up, and everyone outside can dismiss the reality on the basis of the pretense which, ironically, is again, just doing what Adam did. It just gives the skeptic a false justification.
The word devil means slanderer, liar. Satan means resistor or adversary. So Satan the Devil the disobedient angel is called, and the Bible says he is the God of the world, but the world will perish. The meek will inherit the earth and live forever upon it. They are the ones seeing through the pretense. Who don't want the pretense, but want the truth buried like a treasure beneath it.
@LordShadowfire Correction- the Apostle Paul.
BibleData · M
@BritishFailedAesthetic @LordShadowfire Skeptics and even some believers give Paul a lot of trouble. I don't really understand it except for that it's a popular tactic of the skeptic more based upon wishful thinking than anything. Then uninformed people propagate it. I once had an online friend who was a history buff; an atheist who knew the Bible well. He was shocked when I pointed out that Paul wasn't the one who created Christianity because earlier he had persecuted and killed Christians. The Bible is harmonious throughout. Jesus and Paul didn't have new teachings, they carried on the teachings of Moses. Jesus did away with the Law by fulfilling it.
LordShadowfire · M
@BritishFailedAesthetic [quote]Correction- the Apostle Paul.[/quote]
Prove that he met Yeshua, and we'll talk.
@BibleData [quote]Skeptics and even some believers give Paul a lot of trouble. I don't really understand it except for that it's a popular tactic of the skeptic more based upon wishful thinking than anything. Then uninformed people propagate it.[/quote]
So, here's my thought. We basically have his word that he met Yeshua after his alleged death and resurrection. Dismissing my personal skepticism regarding the whole Resurrection in the first place there's the fact that Yeshua said absolutely nothing about coming back, and did say that Peter was to be the head of the church, not some random that none of the disciples had ever met in their lives. My thought is that Saul, unable to convince people to abandon this new religion by killing them, faked his conversion in order to subvert the new religion.
Prove that he met Yeshua, and we'll talk.
@BibleData [quote]Skeptics and even some believers give Paul a lot of trouble. I don't really understand it except for that it's a popular tactic of the skeptic more based upon wishful thinking than anything. Then uninformed people propagate it.[/quote]
So, here's my thought. We basically have his word that he met Yeshua after his alleged death and resurrection. Dismissing my personal skepticism regarding the whole Resurrection in the first place there's the fact that Yeshua said absolutely nothing about coming back, and did say that Peter was to be the head of the church, not some random that none of the disciples had ever met in their lives. My thought is that Saul, unable to convince people to abandon this new religion by killing them, faked his conversion in order to subvert the new religion.
Elessar · 26-30, M
"He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich--both come to poverty." -Proverbs 22:16
Virtually no one, all societies I can think of are rich-people centric
Virtually no one, all societies I can think of are rich-people centric
TurnMeLoose · 51-55, M
His teaching are to the Jews only. We believe Paul's gospel in this current dispensation of grace.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
About as many as the supposed followers of Ayn Rand who live by her 'teachings'.
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Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@jshm2 christ
IamCuriousBabe · 51-55, F
You and me both.
But that's really for neither of us to judge.
But that's really for neither of us to judge.
Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
Very few for sure . It’s a lot to live up too.
Slade · 56-60, M
Homo
BohemianBoo · M
LordShadowfire · M
Back when I was attending church, we used to call those folks hypochristians.
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@LordShadowfire do you believe in God
LordShadowfire · M
@JohnOinger It's complicated.
[c=BF0000][b][big]TL:DR alert[/big][/b][/c]
I believe the god of Christianity exists. But I don't believe he is the creator. I believe he is a creation of humans, an egregore. (Google it.) I don't know whether he was created intentionally, or whether the people who created him legitimately thought he was real, but I believe him to be a created being.
There have been many such created beings in the course of human evolution. Some of them can be quite helpful. They feed on prayer and faith, in the same way we feed on food and water. When people forget about them, they slowly die. The ancient Greeks believed that last part to be true, that the gods would die without prayer and worship. It makes sense only if they are the creation of humans.
It is for this reason that different Christians report God telling them different instructions. They are actually creating their own version of God, then asking him for instructions.
[c=BF0000][b][big]TL:DR alert[/big][/b][/c]
I believe the god of Christianity exists. But I don't believe he is the creator. I believe he is a creation of humans, an egregore. (Google it.) I don't know whether he was created intentionally, or whether the people who created him legitimately thought he was real, but I believe him to be a created being.
There have been many such created beings in the course of human evolution. Some of them can be quite helpful. They feed on prayer and faith, in the same way we feed on food and water. When people forget about them, they slowly die. The ancient Greeks believed that last part to be true, that the gods would die without prayer and worship. It makes sense only if they are the creation of humans.
It is for this reason that different Christians report God telling them different instructions. They are actually creating their own version of God, then asking him for instructions.