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Christians of SW, i have some questions and some thoughts depending on the answers:

1) Can a person only go to heaven if they believe in Jesus' death, resurrection and sacrifice?
2) Can an atheist who otherwise lives their life as well as any Christian go to heaven?
3) Can someone who never heard of Jesus and lived their entire lives in ignorance but in good will go to heaven?
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OutoftheGloom · 46-50, F
Every single person sins, the word sin in Hebrew means "to miss the mark" It is God that decides where that mark should be and it is in alignment with his perfect and loving nature.

Fortunately for us, because God's nature is infinitely loving and compassionate, God gave us a way out of sin through Jesus' death and resurrection so that we can spend eternity with God if we choose to.

I've been a Christian for several years now, a relationship with God, it's really the same as any kind of relationship in that , the more time you spend with a person, the more you get to know them. God is no different in that respect. If you want to know him. Just talk to him. You'll hear back from him if you are sincere and genuine in your prayers and if you are open to hearing his voice.

But... here's what I know about God and what I think are plausible answers to your questions-

*God has a massive heart that is over flowing with love. Because he loves us, he wants to know us personally and will do whatever it takes to get to know us.

*We can't see a person's heart or what's happening in the moments before a person leaves this world but God can.

*The Bible tells us that for God, a thousand years is like a day and a day is like a thousand years. He can speak to us in a millisecond through multiple ways of communication.

*God is more than able to speak to someone who has never been able to hear the gospel and who has never personally known him. I don't believe he would reject someone who truly has never had the opportunity to know him.

*An atheist is a different thing, that's a person whos heart is 100% cold and closed off. I like to think there are few people who are genuine atheist and that in the last moments, even if they lived most of their life refusing to get to know God. God finds a way to reach them.
OutoftheGloom · 46-50, F
@JimboSaturn you are oozing anger. If you're so offended then block me. It's not going to change my opinion. Sorry you don't like that xx
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@OutoftheGloom i am not oozing anger. It is you who is falsely characterizing me. I know I can't change your opinion because you opinion is based on faith not fact.

I am appalled by your rudeness and ignorance.

Shame on you
OutoftheGloom · 46-50, F
@JimboSaturn I have plenty of blocks. I'll save you one Using yours ❤
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Pikachu Jesus came up with the idea of resurrection when he and his family fled to Egypt. After all, he was a religious fanatic. Paul reinforced that idea from his own time in Egypt.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@Diotrephes I personally have long held to the theory that he faked his death and resurrection intentionally. It would have been difficult, and extremely taxing on his body, but it was possible in those days. Note that he "died" almost immediately after drinking "wine" from a sponge that "someone" provided.
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laurieluvsit · 31-35, F
1) Can a person only go to heaven if they believe in Jesus' death, resurrection and sacrifice?
ANS: Uncertain

2) Can an atheist who otherwise lives their life as well as any Christian go to heaven?
ANS: Same answer as #1

3) Can someone who never heard of Jesus and lived their entire lives in ignorance but in good will go to heaven?
Yes
gregloa · 61-69, M
1st question, yes, if they obey Jesus commands.
2nd question, no. Only true Christian’s that obey Jesus commands will go to Heaven.
3rd question, no. It’s most likely impossible for someone to never hear about Jesus. Even if it was possible they aren’t a Christian therefore they cannot go to Heaven.
@gregloa

Well no, if we're being honest that's not true. That is the oft-repeated dogma but it fails even cursory examination:

The simple fact is that one cannot choose to love and obey god if one is not convinced that god exists.
The simple fact is that one cannot choose to be convinced by that which one finds unconvincing and we can prove that right here and now if you don't believe me.

If god knit each of us in our mothers womb then he created billions of people he knew beforehand would never go to heaven with no more justification that they were unconvinced that he exists.
gregloa · 61-69, M
@Pikachu
You have heard about Jesus. You’re unconvinced that He and God exist. So when you die and if you’re standing in front of Jesus for judgement, do you think you deserve a free pass because you weren’t convinced? Will you believe then?
@gregloa

I dunno. I guess my answer would be the same as if you die and end up standing in front of Allah.
My point was simply to disprove the notion that belief is a choice....which again, happy to prove to you if you doubt it.
Atari2678 · 41-45, M
Well we all need to hear the good word and we want to accept it we have the right to do so . If christ is the only way back to heaven then maybe . Christ died for all mankind for our sins and he came back in three days to defeat death .
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@helenoftroy2000

Well that's sorta hard to say from this side of things lol
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Carazaa · F
Good questions!

1. Can a person only go to heaven by belief in Jesus resurrection? Jesus says, "Noone comes to the Father but through me." It is quite clear in the Bible that we cannot please God except by forgiveness of our sins, and that only by belief in the actual resurrection of Jesus when we hear the Gospel, God's son who took our sins on his own shoulders. If we deny him, he will deny us he says, when he comes with a hundred million angels to judge the world.

2. Any person who does not sin at all, will go to heaven. However, that is no one, because we all sin every day, whether we believe in God, or not. Jesus says "it is written, do not murder, but I say if you are angry with your brother, you are guilty because you have murdered in your heart, and it is written "do not commit adultery, but I say if you look at a person with lust you are guilty, because you have committed adultery in your heart." Not only that, but Pikachu the first 3 commandments in the Bible are to love God "Love God with all your heart, your soul, and your mind." If you don't believe in God how can you love God like that? so that is sinning too right?.
But, what about the person who does not have faith in God and sincerely loves people, is good to their mate, doesn't lie, asks for forgiveness when they have offended someone? Those are acts that they will not be punished for. But their thoughts that were not loving, the acts that were not loving, those will have Gods wrath, because God is a just God. If they haven't believed in Jesus and His sacrifice for their sins then He will not cover those like a person's sins who asked God for forgiveness in Jesus' name. Repenting is important.

3. Ok, so will a person who never heard of Jesus go to heaven? Yes, because many people lived before Jesus died for our sins (4000 years of history before Jesus rose from the dead) God writes "The firmament declares the Glory of God, you are without excuse"
God saves; we don't save ourselves when we repent, God saves us.
I was saved instantly when I repented to God as a child, before I really knew about Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, but now I understand what he did for the world, and I am so grateful.
(I have a broken computer so if there are missing letters forgive me for not being clear pls)
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
I guess the good Christian couldn't handle any criticism, understanding , or remorse for being rude.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M

 
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