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No, the documented abuses of Christian colonialism is not based on "woke" ideology.

Centuries ago, even other Christians spoke out against the abuses and you had non violent groups protesting these things too, such as the Quakers. The horrible things Christian colonists did are backed up by historians, primary source documents, and centuries of institutional records provide extensive evidence that violence, coercion, and subjugation were frequently carried out or justified using Christian doctrine during the colonial era.

To say centuries of info is "woke" when they had no such terminology is ridiculous.

Historical Evidence of Colonial Violence:

Historians have documented numerous ways in which Christian structures and ideologies were intertwined with colonial violence:

Doctrine and Justification:

Colonial powers frequently used religious frameworks to justify the dispossession and subjugation of indigenous peoples. For instance, the "Doctrine of Discovery," supported by 15th-century papal bulls, provided a legal and moral framework for European powers to seize lands inhabited by non-Christians.

Use of Force in Evangelization: In many regions, missionization was not purely peaceful. In East Africa and the Americas, mission stations were often established or maintained through physical coercion, including flogging, corporal punishment for those who resisted, and the use of military force to suppress indigenous opposition.

Sacred Violence: The conflation of religious and racial identity often led to "sacred violence," where the destruction of indigenous peoples or their sacred sites was framed as an act of service to God or a fight against "the devil".

Systemic Control: Institutions like the Inquisition and later missionary-run workhouses often utilized systemic violence to enforce religious and cultural conformity, treating "otherness" as a threat to be disciplined or eradicated.

Complexity and Counter-Narratives

While the link between Christianity and colonial violence is historically well-documented, historians also acknowledge that Christianity was not a monolithic force. It often played dual roles:

Internal Critique: Throughout the colonial period, there were Christian individuals and movements that vehemently opposed colonial abuses on theological grounds. Figures like the Dominican friar Bartolomé de las Casas in the 16th century were early, vocal critics of the atrocities committed by Spanish colonizers.

Missionary Advocacy: In the 19th century, missionaries often occupied a "bridging position." While they were part of the colonial apparatus, many used their influence to document and publicize colonial abuses, such as the slave trade or settler violence, to pressure European governments for reforms or abolition.

Diverse Perspectives: Scholars distinguish between the institutional role of the church as an agent of state expansion and the actions of individual missionaries or dissenting religious groups (like the Quakers) who actively campaigned against imperialist policies.

Why This is Not a "Modern" Invention

The critique of colonial violence is not a product of recent "woke" ideology; it has been a part of historical and theological discourse for centuries. Indigenous leaders, enslaved people, and dissenting missionaries documented these abuses in real-time.

The academic shift toward critically examining the "ideological" role of missionaries, viewing them as potential "shock troops" for empire, began in the mid-to-late 20th century as part of the broader decolonization movement and the study of postcolonial literature.

This was an attempt by historians to provide a more comprehensive, evidence-based account of history that includes the experiences of colonized populations, rather than relying solely on the narratives of the colonizers.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@jshm2 I didn't know that but I knew there's historical documented practices of them using enslaved people's skin for various items and used to stuff their hair in furniture.
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A recommended book. "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond. Pulitzer Prize best seller.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BlueSkyKing Thanks I'll look into it, I like the title
@SatanBurger Lots of YouTube videos including a Nat-Geo series.
Convivial · 26-30, F
Read "lies my teacher told me" by an American historian if you want to one the full facts...
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@Convivial Highly recommended.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Convivial Sounds good will check it out
Convivial · 26-30, F
@SatanBurger it's history without the sugar coating
LordShadowfire · 51-55, M
Honestly, Christians themselves would realize this if they paid attention to the words of the central character of the religion.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire You'd think, that's how you know they are very selective with what they even know, it's doubtful many even understand the complexities to what their own religion even is. I roll my eyes whenever someone mentions woke, as if they were "woke" centuries ago.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
Hey, 12 years of Catholic school! You don't need to tell me about religious violence...
peterlee · M
@GerOttman I can give you examples of secular state schools, run by bullies for bullies.

Fortunately we are all not like that.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@peterlee The biggest bully's were usually at the front of the classroom. They're the enablers that green light the herd.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@GerOttman Catholic school and fundie neighbors made me into a Pagan. That was in high school.
peterlee · M
The British navy worked tirelessly between 1807 and 1860 to release and resettle some 160 000, African slaves. Thomas Clarkson and William Wilberforce were paramount in abolishing slavery. Here are Christian values.

Woke has nothing to do with Christianity, though Anglican Bishopesses disagree.

The pivotal concepts of Grace and Forgiveness seem to be absent from your discussion. Nor the efficacy of the Cross.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@peterlee
The pivotal concepts of Grace and Forgiveness seem to be absent from your discussion

This post was meant for conservatives using woke as a way to take away the role that Christianity played in slavery.

No one said Christians weren't involved in freeing slaves, Quakers are a good thing to list this as but to pretend that it also had no role in slavery and that it is a woke conspiracy directly contradicts historical records period.

Records that I've listed clearly in my post.

The whole argument "Christians freed the slaves" doesn't change the role it had in slavery in the first place
peterlee · M
@SatanBurger I accept your point of view. And there were some pretty dreadful people in England, but never racial. There is still effect slavery in England in the sweat rooms of Leicester and Bradford, in the Muslim areas.

John Newton was another guy who worked tirelessly in the eighteenth Century. Slave trading captain turned reformist.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@peterlee Thanks for being respectful, I honestly agree that not all Christians are bad. I'm a fan of the Quakers myself and there's some sects I can get down with more than others. But conservatives today are saying that the history of slavery regarding their part in the mess is woke propaganda, I got tired of it and wrote a response
TheHammer · M
Im missing something here. Where is the connection between "woke" and this?
Did I miss something on the news?
I don't get it.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@TheHammer This post was meant for conservatives using woke as a way to take away the role that Christianity played in slavery. There were a few on here who were saying things like that so decided to have the last word 🫡
It's a sad state of affairs when Woke is used as an insult.
BohoBabe · M
If someone blames something on woke ideology, I refuse to seriously engage until they explain what "woke ideology" means.

ArishMell · 70-79, M
@BohoBabe Quite so. I have sometimes asked what the user means. Most are unable or unwilling to say.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohoBabe That's a good point
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohoBabe I notice that when that question is asked they never answer

 
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