@TheWildEcho oh thanks. Maybe he means Superman , lol

@usher Icarus

@TheWildEcho Cool

I have never liked going to church, I'm not one of those people that say if it's not in the bible, then it's not true or real. I can't stand people who only think all the answers about God and the afterlife are only in the bible. My mind expanded a little bit further after reading some of Sylvia Browne's first books. Then it went from there. I even wrote my own book. It's on amazon (for kindle only) it's titled "Everything you don't believe is real"

@DocSavage There is nothing rational about the next life ?

@usher
And no rational reason to believe in one.

@Diotrephes You are so ignorant of the words of Jesus that you are now becoming incoherent . Jesus never lied when he said he was the son of God. What you call becoming out of reality is reality for me. The main man as you say using metaphors is a way of communicating with his 'flock' Because you are not part of this communication you can never interpret anything. it's this lack of understanding where you are on thin ice. Nothing you have said yet makes sense in your literal world. That the difference between you and people with faith

@usher OK, we can use all of the English translations and if you will be so kind as to post one or more that will support your opinion I will appreciate it.

https://thebricktestament.com/the_parables_of_jesus/use_of_parables_explained/mk04_33-34.html 5 pictures.

This is an excellent opportunity for you to to display your persuasive skills so please stay engaged in the discussion.

And while you are at it, please explain why you think Jesus was blowing hot air about being able to command a tree to uproot itself and to jump into the sea but you believe him when he said that you can gain eternal life if you drink his blood and eat his flesh.

@Diotrephes You mention parables, but I was not referring to parables alone. I never said Jesus was blowing hot air when he spoke about faith. I truly believe in the sentiment as a reality . He was emphasizing the power of faith. I'm not going to try to convince you or convert you as you already are not chosen to understand. You are the kind of person that needs proof and nothing else will do. When I read the word of jesus I understand (interpret ) it differently than you . It's nothing to do with English. Eating his body and blood is akin to saying if you do what he preached, then yes you will have eternal life. Whats complicated about that? surely you see its logic. It's folly to try to convince an Atheist about faith or interpretations. Besides ,I am convinced that you can't understand the teachings of Jesus

@usher Jesus was fully both.
He was the second Adam.

@Pfuzylogic The first Adam didn't turn out very well. He was a major disappointment.

@Diotrephes
You have no understanding of what you talk about. Why don’t you take your faithless personality to another post.

@Rhode57 Same her. At the moment I have gone as far as I can with understanding my faith

@usher Thats a shame keep looking you might surprise yourself .

@Rhode57 Thank you . What I really meant is that I so much believe in what I do that I don't feel the need to look further. But I understand you sentiment

@usher I don't see a lot of truth in any religion.

@kodiac It's the religious people (priests , nuns , popes) that have misinterpreted the truth and tried to pass it on to people. If religion had the right people then religion would have different meaning. But try to not see religion the same as the people who preech it

@usher Exactly

@Diotrephes
You are making sad unsupported statements.
Could be a good time to rest your tired neck.

@Pfuzylogic You claim to believe in God but you refuse to believe that you are being tested like Job was. All I'm doing is trying to have a discussion with you so why are you fearful about having a meaningful dialogue?

@Diotrephes
You project quite a bit.
I have no fear discussing Faith.
All I see is you making false accusations.
This is nowhere near the level that Job was tested.
You flatter yourself.

@Aime2004 Good for you

@Lovingsomeone me too

@Lovingsomeone great

@usher those are just learned words.
Wires pathways.
It’s like a chant.
It could have just as easily been another set of wiring.

@usher but I like that. I like the consciousness and finding out more about it either through science or internal reflection. Or just reading about stuff from different cultures etc.

@Carlisle Yes. When people talk to God they are speaking to a great consciousness, that embodies the Universe. A lot of different cultures have the same idea of God

@SW-User Yes, you and God are real

@usher He has great faith in my trying to be the best person that I'm able.

@swandfriends What are you going to do when you die and find you've been worshipping a false god and find yourself facing Odin instead?

I wonder what will happen when the believers die and thats it.... No heaven.. Supreme being.... Just dead @NortiusMaximus

@swandfriends Have any of the chickens you have eaten returned to life?

@ArishMell good for you

@Dainbramadge true. All that matters

@Lostpoet Interesting

@Niloo fair comment

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout no I am God !!!!

@MoonaNorth86 c'mon sparticus. let me have this One :)

Ok here you go @TheOneyouwerewarnedabout

@swandfriends Excellent interpretation, I totally agree

@Dino11 excellent

@MoonlightLullaby understood

@eyeno me too

@Sydnee Seems fair

@Diotrephes
Don’t carry on like this.
Whether you have faith in the true God or not.
You are now acting like an attentention starved troll.

@Pfuzylogic Bye.

@zonavar68 God does not have a body like humans. God is neither he nor she. I used He but I could easily have said 'it'.But that feel derogatory. SO now you know.