@Carazaa I asked you a question at the beginning of this comment thread. And you gave your answer. Then I did my best to just mirror that answer back to you in my own words, asking if I was understanding you correctly. I have done that four times. All four times you have refused to tell me whether I have correctly understood you or not. And the final time, you added a new a circular argument that requires someone to already agree with you in order to accept what you are saying.

I do not think you are engaged in this discussion in good faith with me. So I'm going to suggest we end this discussion.

@ShadowSister

Sounds good!

Just for your information! A few days ago, you were telling me you had enough of discussion, but then you came back to boldly ask me question after question and I patiently forgave you for being disrespectful, and I have spent many hours answering all of your questions to the best of my ability!

I went all out for you, ignoring my family and my work at times just for [b]you[/b] and you are not grateful at all, but criticizing my honest attempt to answer how I know God and the Holy Spirit is in my heart.

It is difficult to share how God saved me. I was blind, but now I see that's all I can say! God does the miracle work, not me. I suggest you ask God for answers if you really want to know which I doubt now. You just like to criticize!


Have a good day!

@SW-User 🤗 Thank you, let's keep praying people aren't deceived, that they will search for truth, and follow God!

@Carazaa Amen 🙏

@littlepuppywantanewlife That is so nice of you

@SW-User i wish it didn't die :(

@littlepuppywantanewlife So sorry! 😪

@Scribbles So now you know!

@Longpatrol If you want your ears tickled instead of the truth he sends pastors and Satan to tell you sweet lies,

@Carazaa I don't mind if they send me Fleetwood Mac 🎵tell me lies🎵

@Beautifullyderanged Jesus is the creator, and he will come soon with his 100 million angels and take us home to heaven if we love him. And he will judge the world, and throw Satan in the bottomless pit.

@Carazaa where does it say Jesus is the creator? Wasnt he sent to Earth to spread the word of God and then die? Also Satan is already in Hell, where is this bottomless pit?

@Beautifullyderanged
Satan is roaming the earth for souls and is NOT in hell yet. Here is the creator passage, and below is the revelation passage. You'll have to ask God where the pit is.

John 1

The Word Became Flesh
1 [b]In the beginning was the Word,[/b] and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 [b]Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.[/b] 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

14 [b]The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. [/b]We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[b] is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Revelation 20:3

"The angel cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

@Carazaa It's a circular definition because the Bible says the Bible is true.

A rapist is "saved" if, one second before he dies, he accepts Jesus, correct? But if his victim doesn't forgive him, then the victim goes to hell. That's a depraved form of morality.

However, the question is whether God wants everyone to be saved, or if he wants certain people to go to hell no matter what. If God wants everyone to be saved, then does God get what he wants? Because if not, that means Satan is more powerful than God if he manages to withhold some people from him.

This is the argument in Pastor Rob Bell's [i]Love Wins[/i], that God's love is even stronger than hell, and souls in hell can choose to be with God anytime they want. This is the doctrine of post-mortem salvation. The idea that the possibility of salvation ends with death makes it a cruel game where information is withheld until it's too late to do anything. Bell was forced to resign his pastorship over this, which makes me suspect that he's onto something.

@LeopoldBloom


The Bible is true because it has been proven true, historically, by the fulfilled prophesies, by the changed lives, and changed countries.

Be careful who you listen too please. That Pastor is not saved and does not know God, or understand the Bible. God will give people over to Satan if they refuse the truth. God knows your heart. He knows everything about you, the number of hairs on your head even. Satan is not more powerful than God. He would like you to believe that maybe, but it is not true. Souls in hell can't choose God. It is too late when Jesus comes with a hundred million angels. We are all going to face him for how we lived our lives according to Biblical standards. If we loved God and people. We can all repent and seek God, but the saving is Gods doing. With "saved" I mean the Holy Spirit changes the heart completely and truth is revealed to us.

"All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God" We are all equally guilty, and all of us deserve death according to Gods standards. So that's why Jesus saved humanity by taking our sins on his own shoulders.

@Carazaa There are no "fulfilled prophecies." They're either doctored to appear to be fulfilled, or they're fulfilled after the fact.

Doesn't your religion forbid lying? If Rob Bell isn't saved and doesn't know God or understand the Bible, then neither do you.

Your arrogance makes me want to puke. Christianity is true because it's the most popular religion on earth, but you're the only one doing it correctly. At least Rob Bell doesn't lie about other people's beliefs the way you do.

@Carazaa And completely sidestepping what I said. No surprise there. And 2000 years worth of people would disagree.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Sounds like you want to fight, I'm not interested!

@Carazaa Just stating facts.