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I'm not an Atheist

I'm an Agnostic who thinks that God just sucks.
GnosticChristian · 70-79, M
Most who do not recognize the perfection of reality think as you do.

But if you are talking about how God is shown by the mainstream, I do not blame you for being agnostic and rejecting that evil demiurge.

Perhaps I can get you to drop the a in agnostic and grow your knowledge and wisdom by going Gnostic.

Here is our view of reality.

The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL
CestManan · 46-50, F
I do not get why God created us to be these horrid sinful creatures but we are suppose to ask forgiveness for our very nature.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Jeremi That was one of the first things I didn't understand about religion. Like if he created everything the way it is, then how is it the world's fault?

It would be like if you made your own shirt and when it turned out like crap, you blame everything but yourself
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@CestManan
many people do that now, I guess THEY really are God's children. but they defind his b.s.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Jeremi no kidding
Jeremi · 41-45, M
for any religious person, believer, Christian that was offended by that: that was not intended to purposely offend you. my daughter believes in God, even goes to church. and guess what? I encourage her to. just because it doesn't work in my life, doesn't mean that it can't work it hers. same for the rest you, if it works for you, go with it. it has just never worked in my life.
Carazaa · F
God is wonderful, he did not have to visit us and be tortured for us who don't love him. We are the ones who are terrible and kill and hate!
Carazaa · F
@Jeremi What are you talking about? Why the aggression! Excuse me for commenting!
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Carazaa No, he really didn't have to do that 😂
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@Carazaa
why the offense? Jesus would have taken that and said: "okay, I understand." as he tild his disciples: "plead with the people as much as you can. but if they will not accept you, walk away." Solomon, as the Bible says, "in all his greatness", said Proverbs: "it is not wise to argue with a fool". (and clearly in your opinion, everyone who doesn't agree with you is a fool, therefore you pick a fight with them).
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@jshm2

lol bit of a thin skin there, sport.
You may think god is great but there are perfectly credible reasons to think he's a monster.
I'm happy to discuss those reasons...
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SW-User
You’re too negative and you shouldn’t be
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@SW-User
you are, too. look at your posts.
SW-User
I know I am. I just think you deserve to feel happy and your life isn’t too bad. That’s my opinion but I don’t know what exactly your life is like. @Jeremi
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@SW-User
you should take your own advice as well...
SW-User
Did you have some religious upbringing?
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@SW-User
not one of those uptight types. casual. my grandparents were devoted. but experiences with people over years (and I mean a lot of years) with people like Carazaa on here, and my own experiences, "God" is a concept to me.
Outsider98 · 36-40, M
God is a fraud
Carazaa · F
@Outsider98 How is he a fraud? He doesn't have the right to demand that we are loving. He created us and he can take us out, right? What is happening in the world is our own doing! We are killing each other with hate!
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@Carazaa
look, can you NOT respond to everything that has to do with God? I read tons of stuff on here that I don't agree with. and yes, tou have free will to comment. but come on. it's like you do it to purposely start arguments and debates. I don't comment on everything I disagree with. just leave it alone sometimes. hell, even "God" doesn't even but in all the time when "He" feels disrespected. yeesh.
TheLordOfHell · 41-45
I have no idea what's out there
Jeremi · 41-45, M
@TheLordOfHell
you're frigging SpaceJesus, and you have no idea? c'mon man!
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Jeremi I mean, SpaceJesus is out there. no really, he is "out there".

 
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