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Are you ready for the meat tax?

I heard on the news that, in Germany, a meat tax is up for consideration. It will be similar to luxury taxes on cigarettes and alcohol. It is part of their effort to address climate change.

Burger King is carrying Impossible Burgers to get us used to NOT eating meat.

I would be happy with that, and I like chicken and fish...but my doctor says I HAVE to eat beef. There's some sort of chemical in it that helps your kidneys to function better.

What are people like me supposed to do when they tax beef beyond our budgets?
BlueVeins · 22-25
I'm very glad that Germany is taking positive steps to tackle the looming environmental and public health problems. It may cost people more at the grocery store counter, including -- rather unfortunately -- the small minority of people who are obligate omnivores. But at least it will save even that minority money in terms of healthcare costs and property values. At least they'll be less likely to contract asthma from the emissions of toxic gasses and less likely to recieve permanent brain damage from tainted shellfish (which is frequently caused by algea blooms, which are, in themselves caused by intensive farming).

It's impossible not to feel at least a little bit bad for someone who's getting shot in the wallet for reasons they can't control, but meat consumption in the western world has spiraled so far out of hand that it's literally killing people and will continue to so if nothing more is done. Maybe this will help spur on the development of affordable synthetic supplements that can help aleviate this problem altogether. As for now, 19% is a reasonable cost for the benefits reaped. My only real complaint is that other animal products (such as dairy and eggs) aren't also getting taxed more, despite relying on the exact same industry.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@4meAndyou I considered bringing up heart disease, but as you know, heart disease has a lot of causes and only some of them are related to meat. It wouldn't really be fair of me to say that 23.5% of deaths could be attributed to meat because that would discount the role of candy, malnutrition, sedintary lifestyles, sleep deprivation, depression, etcetera.

There's also an obvious qualitative argument to be had on the subject. Is it really the same for a young adult to die from a bullet wound versus a 60 year old man to die from having to much lard on his body? I'd argue that the answer is no. And I don't necessarily consider numerical comparisons to be relevant in this particular case, since our ability to reduce deaths from meat overconsumption isn't ultimately related to our ability to reduce deaths from drugs and weapon misuse.
@BlueVeins Is it dark , under your bed ?
BlueVeins · 22-25
curiosi · 61-69, F
One way or another they are determined to redistribute the wealth. Call it "climate change" so they don't know they are getting screwed.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
What does the USA taxation have to do with Germany?
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou Taxing meat is not going to destroy capitalism or prosperity.
4meAndyou · F
@Wol62 You are changing quite quickly from discussing an online magazine, and then going back on topic. One is not identical to the other.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou Sorry ma'am!
Heartlander · 80-89, M
I just noticed last night at a local tavern where we stopped off for dinner, a table-tent advertising bean-burgers as a new addition to their menu.

I think it's an attempt to address diversity, so chicken-wings smackers and vegans can enjoy one another's company over something they both do agree on.

Horrible that taxes are used as a vehicle for both rewarding some and punishing others.
4meAndyou · F
@Heartlander They are so freaking stupid they don't even know that some people actually NEED to eat red meat for medical reasons.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@4meAndyou They don't care about what you need or deserve. They care about how you vote.
4meAndyou · F
@Heartlander Well, they lost my vote.
76starships · 46-50, M
I’d prefer a sugar tax, that’s more dangerous to people’s health than meat.
DunDunDun · 22-25, F
@4meAndyou be in denial all you want but it's a fact that eating meat increases your risk of heart disease
4meAndyou · F
@DunDunDun I actually did the research, unlike you. Research is what I DO. Maybe you should look things up instead of being snotty about things you don't really know.
DunDunDun · 22-25, F
@4meAndyou yeah sure lol
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
I think if people get good enough at making meats that are not meat but taste like it people will gravitate away from meat if for no other reason but better health without any government prodding.
4meAndyou · F
@Subsumedpat That's probably very true. My own inclinations are toward fish and chicken anyway...but recently my doctor told me I HAVE to eat beef more often. My body is lacking some sort of enzyme or chemical it needs for my kidneys to function efficiently. So when they start taxing the hell out of beef, I will have to give up other foods in order to pay for it.
shouldn't be eating meat everyday anyway - who cares a few cents tax.
4meAndyou · F
@MarmeeMarch I care. Meat is NOT a luxury item for me. (Read above). And we don't know what the tax will be. It will NOT be just a few cents.

The tax on cigarettes as a luxury item is so high most people can't afford to smoke. They did that so people wouldn't smoke.

But there are medical reasons for some people needing to eat red meat. Am I going to have to go out now and get a meat prescription? Am I going to have to pay a lawyer to get me a tax exemption?
@4meAndyou Well if you NEED meat then it would be shitty predicament if you had to pay more. And I guess it has come to that- an Rx from the doctor.
4meAndyou · F
@MarmeeMarch And that just sucks. I don't need a prescription now...and I don't need to hire a lawyer to get me a tax exemption, and that's going to be costly. And I WILL need all of the above if the a-holes in charge of government keep up their idiocy.
DunDunDun · 22-25, F
Taxes aren't gonna kill you, lord. It's not like you're selling your soul, chill.
Then I'll just have to make a long meat sauce to last a week/10 days
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4meAndyou · F
@cherokeepatti Well...you can make beans, for sure, and everyone does. The impossible burger is made with soy beans and soy roots and other vegetables,(gluten free), and an additional patented flavoring that makes the veggie burger taste exactly like real beef with a little blood running out of it. Leghemoglobin is found in soy roots, and through a patented process, the company can extract something called HEME.

Heme is an iron-containing molecule. It's what makes meat taste like meat and not cardboard.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou I don’t eat soy products.
bowman81 · M
@Stereoguy They said that about turkey bacon too...🤢

 
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