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Are you ready for the meat tax?

I heard on the news that, in Germany, a meat tax is up for consideration. It will be similar to luxury taxes on cigarettes and alcohol. It is part of their effort to address climate change.

Burger King is carrying Impossible Burgers to get us used to NOT eating meat.

I would be happy with that, and I like chicken and fish...but my doctor says I HAVE to eat beef. There's some sort of chemical in it that helps your kidneys to function better.

What are people like me supposed to do when they tax beef beyond our budgets?
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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
What does the USA taxation have to do with Germany?
4meAndyou · F
@cherokeepatti I am asking if the Germans, (and probably all of the EU), are ready to pay a tax on their meat.

And I am implying that if it is happening in the EU, our crazy socialists will be proposing the same thing here pretty soon...probably in 2024.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou I imagine it’s like everything else going on in their country lately, they are spitting nails over it.
4meAndyou · F
@cherokeepatti The French have to pay enormous taxes already on gasoline. I believe the EU is modeling, for us, what we can expect to see here in the USA if the Democrat socialist party is ever elected to full power.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou I think people are waking up here to what they are planning.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou Socialists are against taxes, so I'm confused.
4meAndyou · F
@Wol62 Totalitarians are not against taxes. What they want to do is tax meat as though it were a luxury item, like booze or cigarettes.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou Taxes were around before socialists so I am still confused?
4meAndyou · F
@Wol62 All right. I'll spell it out. Are you taxed on food at the grocery store in the United States? No. You are not. There's a reason for that. Eating is necessary for your survival. Eating is not a luxury.

Totalitarian control freaks wish to control what foods you are allowed to eat by making their pet peeve foods more expensive and then poor people will not be able to afford to buy them, but rich people will still be able to afford to buy them.

Thus they will create a food chasm, where poor people will be forced to eat beans for protein even if they don't want to, and rich people will still serve steaks at their barbecues.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@4meAndyou We pay sales taxes on groceries in Oklahoma.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou Let me spell it out for you, who is the founder of socialism, Karl Marx right, so what was he thinking of when he did this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_historical_acts_of_tax_resistance#Karl_Marx_prosecuted_for_promoting_tax_resistance,_1848
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@cherokeepatti Oklahoma, a hotbed of German socialism?
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Wol62 🤣😂🤣 not at all. Oklahoma was the only all-red state this last presidential election.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@cherokeepatti Oh, oh right, I was being serious, sorry.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Wol62 There was talk of doing away with sales taxes on groceries but every time the oil industry slows down so less taxes there they think of new things to tax and keep the food taxes. They need to get their shit together in other words.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@cherokeepatti Well, you can only collect a tax where there are sales. It is funny how conservatives always talk about reducing taxation and government spending but never, like, actually do it.
4meAndyou · F
@Wol62 Karl Marx is dead. These people are not Karl Marx, and the proposed taxes are real. Totalitarians want to control populations. If meat consumption affects global warming, (and that fits in to their political message), then totalitarians will prevent the poor from eating meat.

This is a real thing. The proposed taxes are a real thing. It is not hard line Marxism...it is new wave "we just gonna do whatevah we wanna do" socialism which is totalitarianism in disguise.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou But there was a time in history when meat was not taxed and the poor still could not afford it.
4meAndyou · F
@Wol62 Yes, that's true. FDR promised a chicken in every pot...once a week, during the great depression. It was a time of great hunger in the United States and people who could not afford to buy meat had to eat beans.

I have heard many family stories about that time. It wasn't pretty. And this is NOT that time. Instead, that sort of hunger is going to be imposed by the government in Germany, and that is what we can look forward to here...where a bunch of wealthy elites decide that the poor should only eat impossible burgers...that cost about 6 times the amount of a regular hamburger.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou where a bunch of wealthy elites decide that the poor should only eat impossible burgers

I don't think that described the kind of people that read and write for the Jacobean though?
4meAndyou · F
@Wol62 The mag/rag? I don't claim to know the writers of the mag. I did see their articles. It's the sort of thought that will destroy our prosperity. People who hate capitalism? Are you kidding?
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Wol62 Or Soylent Green. I think Impossible Burgers may be one step closer to that.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou Taxing meat is not going to destroy capitalism or prosperity.
4meAndyou · F
@Wol62 You are changing quite quickly from discussing an online magazine, and then going back on topic. One is not identical to the other.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@4meAndyou Sorry ma'am!