Who even says “Indian” to describe Native Americans anymore?

@MaryJanine Is that why you and your friends still act like children?

@MaryJanine I don't remember saying anything about life being over after 50.

@SW-User Maybe you didn't but others did. They equate 50 and over with being in a pine box. 50 is not fatal.

@DrWatson I wouldn't thought there was anything arrogant about it if you just proceeded with the intent to have a civil discussion over it.

@PerchingDove And that is what I hope I am doing.

@PerchingDove [i][b]Let's just all have a group hug!!!😁[/b][/i]

@MaryJanine I didn’t say mine, I said yours. You’re the one who admitted the other people commenting here are your friends. Even if you don’t know anything about them all flocking to this post, which I don’t believe for a second, you’re still part of some coordinated attack. This is so pathetic. You’re all much older than me and you’re acting like a group of high schoolers. What is wrong with you?

@PerchingDove What is wrong with me is the "smart"way you answer anything I say on this subject. Not just me. Others, too, object to the mountain you are making out of a molehill.

It isn't necesssary. You aren't the one with all the right answers because you are younger, any more than I do because I am older. We are never going to agree on this subject. You do what you like and I will go my way. Everyone else can do what they please.

@MaryJanine Keep ignoring what I say about you and your friends ganging up on me. It’s because I am right about that. You can’t even deny it.

@Mamapolo2016 Same here. I once was part of a conversation where a white guy used the term "native American", and the Ojibwa man he was talking to said, "It's OK to say 'Indian'. That's what we use."

@Mamapolo2016 Good that someone’s telling them off for it. Guess old people will be stuck in their ways, but hopefully the younger generation can set it right.

@Mamapolo2016 probably because they have been taught in school not to say Indian for a tribal member, confuses the teachers

@PainfulTruth It does, actually. It might prove a point someone else brought up here. Your second sentence suggests that you’re among the older crowd so I’ll go by that. Thanks!

@PainfulTruth Hahaha! ☺️That's an awesome story! ⭐️

@PainfulTruth It isn't here in Oregon either. I just looked up the "Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians of Oregon" that's very close to where I live. I've gone to Pow Wows there.

@CopperCicada Well, I didn’t say that and the way you did made it seem like you’re all worked up and trying to put words in my mouth. I would never go as far as to say it’s racist to call a Native American an Indian.

@CopperCicada


You're not racist. It is just a complex and heavy topic. You're also not being disrespectful at all.

I had someone message me something similar. They have an Algerian friend who calls himself Berber, he doesn't speak Tamazight even.

It took me a while to process whether to consider that bigoted or not ,but then remembered back when grand dad used to tell me " we are all Imazighan, there are just those who know they are and those who don't know..those who remember and those who forgotton" He used to say this about Algerian Arabs.

So I stopped plucking my feathers mentally and decided to accept how he calls himself. As long he is not doing it as slur and it empowers him to believe he is one, there is no harm in that.

Maybe in the future things will change, he will understand the culture of his ancestors better. It is his journey to make.

@Miram My personal view is that we're in a post-civility post-kindness world. Genuine kindness is irrelevant. Participating in social display properly is all that matters anymore.

@PainfulTruth So that makes it correct? Wrong. And you right-wingers crack me up! Always following each other around to heart your buddies’ comments. You’re like a clique out of high school. And you’re probably older than 50 like the other four people, right? Btw, how’s the election coming along? 😉

@PainfulTruth Still doesn’t make it right. But keep desperately clinging on to your outdated ideas like the other crabby old man children. No one else is going to. And you didn’t answer my question: how’s the election going? Go on, tell me.

@PerchingDove If you thinks it's necessary to be snotty to your elders, as you mentioned below, and to lecture people about which words bother them and which don't, then it is YOU who are political.

@4meAndyou Wtf are you even talking about? You have issues.

@4meAndyou Well, whereas I don't agree with the damage of statues or even less the oppression of peoples, I wasn't trying to turn this into a political matter, mine is just a light-hearted comment on the origin of the "Indian" term to improperly refer to Native Americans. It was another guy still from here, Amerigo Vespucci, who realised to be in a new continent, and whom the continent was named after, if my memory isn't wrong.

@PerchingDove Names are just labels.

@MaryJanine Your point?

@DrWatson They do here too, you can look it up in Oregon.

@Wraithorn Glad there’s at least one older person here who isn’t stuck in their ways.

@DrWatson You are welcome. In my own family, I have a 63-year-old brother who moans about "how old he is", and a 52- year- old sister-in-law who complains, "My life is over."

@MaryJanine My sister had neighbors across the street with whom they socialized a lot. I met them when I visited, and they were a lot of fun.

When the woman turned 50, she decided she was old. No more socializing. No more parties. Everyone thought it was rather strange.

@DrWatson As a kid, I grew up across the street with a widow woman who was between 70 and 80,and she used to cadge cigarettes from my mother. I can hear her French accent today: "June? This is Germaine, You got cigarette?" Of course, Mom always did.

@PerchingDove I agree. It doesn't make sense in this case. And it's even worse in English since misunderstandings can happen easily.

@CrazyMusicLover You are not wrong, they are called [i]red indians [/i] in Turkish and arabic but it is increasingly more acceptable to call them what's equivalent to [i]The original inhabitants[/i]..Not because of understanding but just shift in vocabulary used in history books

@Miram We use words "Indián" as Native American and "Ind" as Indian and strangely enough, I didn't connect two when I was a child. They were two separate, clearly defined terms for me. It was only when I came across the English word Indian that struck me what does it actually mean. 🤦‍♀️ Then for many years I thought Indian in English meant strictly a person coming from India and Native Americans is a term for people we know as "Indiáni". I didn't know English speaking people called Native Americans Indians too.

@Beautifullyderanged I said nothing about ancestors. Forget it.

@PerchingDove lol

@Beautifullyderanged Thank you for your support of us who think like you.

@bowman81 I’m not “woke” I’m one Native American individual with an opinion. I love how you’re all so quick to associate me with the overly PC culture. That just shows one-dimensional your minds are.

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Red feathers from a red-tailed hawk.

@DunningKruger I see the points made, but I don’t agree with all of them and stand by mine.

@SatyrService Omg, we really are. 😱

@PerchingDove whenn I saw you name? i even thought "tulallip"?
yeah my spelling is crap!
about to head up into the coast range for a few days of Mother's Arms

@PerchingDove 😎

Nice to meet you..