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I Hate People Who Deny Domestic Violence Against Men Exists

I attended two domestic incidents yesterday. Both cases involved a male victim of a female attacker. One man was so seriously injured we had to rush him into A&E. Anyone who denies domestic violence against men exists is living in a fantasy world. :(
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Sharon · F
@MalteseFalconPunch I've met that attitude a few times. There are several posts along those lines on SW.
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Paliglass · 41-45, F
I've been on both sides of the coin. Neither is good. As a woman victim I was helped. As a woman perpetrator I wasn't even arrested. I felt it was very unfair.

I was mortified by my own behaviour and sort domestic abuse counselling. My first attempt was not so great because I went to a group where they thought it was ok for me to hit him as long as he wasn't hitting me!?! Then I found a programme that taught the dynamics of abuse which I found infinitely helpful and have avoided being victim or perpetrator since then.

I've known quite a few men who have been victims. One guy I knew was stabbed in the back by his wife. He said at the hospital he'd been in a fight with a man. Meanwhile she reported him for ripping her coat that was hanging on a peg not on her which he'd grabbed as he stumbled out the door from her stabbing him. He was arrested for criminal damage and she was put in a woman's refuge with their 5 children. I told him and told him to tell the truth but she was promising him she'd come home so he didn't tell anyone. He was really embarrassed and ashamed, made me promise not to tell anyone. That's why male abuse is hidden. It needs to come out and have the embarrassment lifted from it how they did with women.

I believe in any case of domestic abuse both parties need to be sent on the course I attended about the dynamics of abuse or something similar.
Paliglass · 41-45, F
@Caroline259 that is true but I know of 4-5 cases personally where women were abused by their police officer partners. The police covered it up, the women found it very difficult to get any help, let alone escape.
If the shame were taken out of it, everyone involved sent to a course about abuse dynamics and it seen as an every day occurrence that needs education then there'd be less abuse eventually.
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Paliglass A long while ago I used to think domestic violence was all men beating women. It wasn't long after becoming an ambulance technician (I qualified as a paramedic later) that I found that was completely at odds with the reality. I have to admit I was surprised at first.

I have a personal interest in this as my husband was a victim of his first wife's violence. He often required hospital treatment for his injures but the police absolutely refused to take any action against her. The police would say it was just his word against hers or that any witnesses (even complete strangers) were his friends so couldn't be witnesses. In at least one case they even tried to get witnesses to lie and say he had attacked her!
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Paliglass I know of one case where a male police officer was abused by his wife. Although his inspector told the attending constables the facts, they still arrested him! In some cases their inherent sexism overrides their loyalty to their fellow officers.
Firespirit · 26-30, M
Another double standard in society
Northwest · M
The organizations dedicated to abuse, and used to have women as part of their name, are changing their name to gender neutral. 37 States have already done a legal sweep, and changed women to gender neutral.

I don't know if any reasonable person denies that abuse is gender neutral.
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I'm not condoning this at all but men (as society perceives) should be seen to be strong and reporting domestic violence against them by a female would be seen as a weakness. This is probably why it isnt reported on or reported to the authorities as much.

I have always said perceptions should never exist at the end of the day domestic abuse is still abuse regardless of gender of the victim.

I hope both cases you attended make full physical and mental recoveries.
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@Sharon Society perceptions again
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@SW-User One wasn't too badly injured so should be OK physically. The other was more seriously injured but will probably survive. I'm not so sure about either's future mental state. :(
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NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
It does exist, it's just that it is not as common as the reverse. As it happens, a guy I once knew in the 80s was violently killed by his insane girlfriend in 1992. After hearing about that from the victim's brother, how can I deny it happens?
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@NankerPhelge That's all any of us can do. The academic studies are more accurate as they involve a larger and more random sample. In my experience, there appears to be more female on male abuse but that's mostly due to the type of incidents I'm more likely to know about.
NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
@Caroline259 Maybe it's more like that in the area where you live, Caroline. I know of one or two high-profile cases where the perpetrator was a woman and the victim was a man. These two, for example:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/caught-out-by-her-own-charade-of-all-too-public-grief-1253227.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1580205/30-years-in-jail-for-anti-freeze-poisoning-wife.html
Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@NankerPhelge I don't think the ratio varies much across the country.

I tend to only get called to the more serious incidents. I'm not likely to know if a man slaps his wife but I might get called out if a woman stabs her husband.
Lynda70 · F
That's more common than society likes to admit.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
Lady, You should meet my family!
I get annoyed when I’ve heard a woman here opine that if she hits a man, he shouldn’t hit her back “because he’s stronger”.I say here because I’ve only seen that opinion online, I don’t know anybody that stupid in rl. That’s why you don’t hit anyone. But imo, a woman who hauls off and hits a man just because she’s angry, and not trying to defend herself, someone else or to get out of his grasp, shouldn’t be surprised if she gets hit back.
As far as the police not taking it seriously, unless you have an all female police force, that’s other men not doing their jobs for sexist reasons.
I've never met a denier of domestic violence towards either sex... Is the argument that women aren't strong enough to hit men? Because that's just straight up sexism.
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Caroline259 · 56-60, F
@Roteampelbremser Wives/Female partners. The police were in attendance but I don't know whether they'll take any action.
Goralski · 56-60, M
Women are brutes:(
Lynda70 · F
@Goralski Not all of us.
Goralski · 56-60, M

 
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