@Northwest Patriarchy has nothing to do with it.

@Rickg this

@Harriet03 Women are more likely to be religious than men.

@TheArbitrator Hardly anyone in Europe.
We've all grown up!!

@Harriet03 Re. God-squadding, funnily enough this hasn't always been the case (for example mediaeval people of all classes not merely bathed and saw each other naked, but in mixed company). The only remnant of the great middle ages' bathing culture left is the sauna in the north.

It all changed not because of the Church particularly (though rigid protestants probably deserve some blame), but because of climate change - the start of the Little Ice Age - which saw more wood being burned just to stay warm than to heat water.

Anyway, digression, but until that point, neither the Church nor anyone else had much of a problem with in-context nipple-baring. It's only since then we've somehow got the idea that it's inherently bad, ingrained.

I blame the Victorians and/or the Enlightenment. Most stuff is their fault!

@arkod So lovely. Exactly part of the issue.

@Fishy so long as it's equally applied I'm okay with that categorization

@tiktok it's almost like that came about as a result of puritanical religions

@ViciDraco Wise. It opens up so many issues.

@DearAmbellina2113 that's a separate issue I think we need to get over. "I don't want to" is perfectly acceptable to me. But "I would if I was X" where X is a subjective cultural view of body type is a thing I'd like to see us evolve beyond.

@SW-User Women make up the majority of voters now, so if that's what you guys want, I don't see what's stopping ya.

@TheArbitrator yeah yeah, i’m not gonna even try to be logical with you. imma just say, women wanna see some titties

@SW-User Not as much as much as men wanna see some titties.

@Mrsbetweenfatandfit I tend to lean the other way. Let people wear as much or as little as they want so long as things are kept hygienic.

@ViciDraco we all should feel free to express that opinion 🌻