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Is this a red flag?

Poll - Total Votes: 6
Yes. He/She should get outta there.
No. Some men just need fixing.
I dunno. Quit asking me.
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My friend describes her boyfriend as a "work in progress". I don't think that phrase has ever been described by people who end up having a successful relationship. What do you think?
None of the three poll answers quite correspond with how I see this, so I went with the third.

That said, since that is sooooo fucking vague, that's impossible to say anything in the regards of whether the relationship is a trainwreck coming or just that the one individual in question is broken or in disarray, or something. The vagueness of 'a work in progress' is just too many possibilities to have any say on.

Fourth poll option: Too Vague
@Amyrakunejo You over thought it. It just means you think they're a fixer upper. You know, that you can make them more caring, less slobbish, wear better clothes, etc. Not that they're damaged emotionally, mentally or physically
@Qwerty14 You ask a philosophically-minded person about this sort of thing, you're gonna get this sort of response. Just keep that in mind.

That being said, the explanation you gave actually paints a different picture than the one I had seen, one I intend to not examine.
Miram · 31-35, F
what if she believed we are all work in progress including herself?
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 I don't think I said it ruins the relationship.

How would you feel if your partner went to a male friend and described you as work in progress?
@Miram I'd be pissed if anyone called me that for any reason. "Work in progress" is a phrase used for projects or chores, not Humans.
Miram · 31-35, F
@Qwerty14 Yes, it can bit objectifying and that's why I think it's disrespectful.

I believe protecting others from yourself and your own flaws should come before expecting them to change for whatever reason, or hand in hand . So to me it's reasonable he'd be upset.
SW-User
It could be as simple as her parroting what the boyfriend says about himself.
Or it could be that she is working on him. 😅
@SW-User Should women "work" on their partners?
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@Qwerty14 no one should.
If you can't accept a person as they are.. You are with the wrong person.
Depends. Most people are a “work in progress”, tbh. But it depends on whether or not that’s how [b]he[/b] sees himself or only the way [b]she[/b] sees him. He has the power to “fix” himself if he thinks it’s necessary. She doesn’t, and is likely to be disappointed trying.
@bijouxbroussard That's what I'm getting at. There's a dangerous mentality that partners are "fixer uppers" and it usually ends up with them being miserable when they don't change
Sounds like He should get outta there!
@LomeMarsupial Haha yeah I guess I didn't think of it from the guys perspective
Don’t try change me bay bay.. that only leads to heartbreak
He should run... Fast and far.
@PrivateHell Edited the option so He or She should run lol
@Qwerty14 still think he should. Unless he thinks he needs to change her.
LyricalOne · F
Not necessarily. Depends on the situation.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
Who isn't a work in progress? That's too vague a term. My experience is that people do like to change each other a bit.
Miram · 31-35, F
@uncalled4 Initially, in a culture where men select women, they seek them out it is normal that the majority would already settle on those that satisfy them. Women are passive, in that same culture, have to accept limited choices. They don't seek out those that already match their needs.

Not to say wanting someone to change is always bad. The person will change as your life together progresses and new things will arise, bad and good. If you love the person, you aren't going satisfied with them being unhappy or in pain. You will have that want as a man or as a woman.
ninjavu · 51-55, M
@Miram @Qwerty14 @uncalled4 There's an old saying:

[quote]Women marry men hoping they will change; men marry women hoping they won't change.[/quote]

Seems to fit some of what you discussed above.
Miram · 31-35, F
@ninjavu That's very much a part of what I was thinking. 👍️
you have to teach/show people how to treat you

 
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