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Does anyone else thoroughly despise the term "person of color"?

I'm not a leftist and I never will be....and I find that term for minorities to be racist. It places emphasis on their skin color, not their character, morality, or contributions to society.
Budwick · 70-79, M
Despise is a strong word.
I DO despise 'political correctness'.
And person of color is a result of that.

They're people.
We're people.
We're all phucking people.
All white, black, African/American, Asian, Latino, Hispanic, gay, straight, trans, Christian, Jewish, ,,, on and on - totally unnecessary. [Someone's gonna bitch at me for not including THEIR group.]

Enough with separating us into little pigeon hole identity slots.
I am totally not interested.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul You are banned til at least Monday.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick toodles snowflake 👋
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
Banned?

Can’t take the heat of rational and informed debate?

@Budwick
SW-User
Omg everything is racist. I think Black History month is racist. I think the BET is racist tv. We are all a person of color. I just happen to be the color white.
LikeTheSun · 22-25, F
@jackjjackson 👌🏿
SW-User
@SW-User omg now you want to take us back how many years? They bitch about an NFL team cuz it's name could be considered racist. We had to change the name of a street cuz it was called confederate blvd. Why is race still an issue after all this time? The only people who bitch about everything being racist are usually racists themselves.
SW-User
@SW-User I don't want to go back at all. That's why I'm not a fan of lumping every minority into a group called "people of color".
indyjoe · 56-60, M
Good point...PC is often stupid and makes little sense.
BlueVeins · 22-25
[quote]It places emphasis on their skin color, not their character, morality, or contributions to society.[/quote]

That sounds more like an objection to racial descriptors in general than to 'POC,' specifically. There has to be a term for racial minorities in order for us to have a reasonable conversation about race and it's effects in society.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@BlueVeins Just lightening the mood (er... no pun intended that time though, lol)
SW-User
@BlueVeins What's wrong with "African American" or "Asian" or "Hispanic"? None of those are disrespectful or bigoted.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@SW-User They're not bad either. It's just useful to have a catch-all term for conversations about discrimination and stuff. Well, I actually have a personal vendetta against the term 'African American' because it's wordy and gimmicky, considering that you could just as well use the word 'black.'
There is nothing racist about being of a certain race. No matter what the race. "People of color" is an expression that is centuries old. It describes the darker skin of the people who are of those races.
SW-User
I think the term is silly purely because of the fact that it implies white people are the colorless default according to which all other people are defined. And it gets messy when you start talking about Middle Easterners (they have a wide range of skin tones; they're Caucasian, but are they "people of color"?) and Hispanics. I know Mexicans with pale skin and blue eyes; are they "people of color"? Any attempt to classify people by race or skin color is going to present problems and paradoxes.
@SW-User White people are the default in the United States. Same for people of European descent, which is why Latinos and Middle Easterners are not considered "white" even if they appear similar to white people.

Proof of this is the different reaction people have to a commercial with an interracial couple.
SW-User
Yes it's a pretty fucked up way to describe a person and is not even a truly a description. One might as well just say "not white".

On a somewhat related note it makes me smile whenever I hear my 7 year old telling a story about his friends and trying to describe to me who is who. Some of his friends are black and when he tries to describe them his mind doesn't even consider skin color. Such an innocence to it.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@SW-User That's the way it should be
OggggO · 36-40, M
That emphasis is there to point out the shared difficulties and discrimination they face in society for not being caucasian. You want to stop hearing the term, work to end the injustice.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@OggggO true but it will be a starting point for it when we as humans can simply view each other as a person without having to add a descriptive label to refer to each other
SW-User
@OggggO I do my part by treating them with the same decency and civility I treat everyone else with.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@SW-User that is the most that any individual can do themselves I actually think that some of these stupid politically correct terms that people come up with cause and make the actual thing worse by highlighting it
Does it also bother you to hear the term “white people?” What about other terms like “American” or “Christian” that emphasize nationality or religion over a person’s character? Even using “man,” “woman,” “child,” “adult,” etc. is a problem.

Are you saying we should refer to people by their accomplishments only? I.e. “that person who helps old ladies across the street?”
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
If someone is upset it’s inflammatory to them and we should respect their feelings. @LeopoldBloom
@jackjjackson OK, if a white person asks us to not call them "white," I'd respect that. Same if a black person asked to not be referred to as a "POC." But [i]never[/i] using those terms because someone might be offended is idiotic.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
We must be sensitive on a case by case basis. @LeopoldBloom
Quizzical · 46-50, M
I'm afraid that's a big problem that the far left displays. They seem to think one trait defines an entire person and concentrate on it to the exclusion of anything else about them.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
Generally speaking, I do t have a lot of respect for people who are disingenuous in the way they use words.

The reality is that many times, when people refer to others using descriptors that equate to “not like me”, they are intentionally being decisive. This could refer to skin color, religion, political persuasion, whatever.

“Persons of color” is another way to say minority

The derogatory intent is based on context.

I don’t despise it. But if I refer to someone’s skin color in a relevant way, that doesn’t make me a racist. And just because someone uses PC language, doesn’t mean they aren’t a racist.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
Yeah I think the generalisation and focus on skin colour is ironic and regressive in some ways. If it truly doesn't matter then we shouldn't be paying attention to it so much.
plungesponge · 41-45, M
Yes, firstly it reinforces the stigma that white is not a colour which puts albinos and people who identify as albinos at risk of marginalization, and secondly it excludes people that don't identify as people and denies the truth of people who present both white and non-white identities
LikeTheSun · 22-25, F
@plungesponge i was just answering your question. I'm a nice person, i just thought you were slow.
plungesponge · 41-45, M
I can be a bit slow at times. People don't seem to mind though.
LikeTheSun · 22-25, F
@plungesponge i can be very patient but that doesn't mean I'm credulous 🙂
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
I think it's a stupid term. Seriously, every time I hear that I imagine a person flashing with random colors like a trashy Christmas tree.
SW-User
Reminds me of that well known verse

When I was born, I was black,
When I grew up, I was black,
When I'm sick, I'm black,
When I go out in the sun, I'm black,
When I'm cold, I'm black,
When I die, I'll be black,

But you,

When you're born, you're pink,
When you grow up, you're white,
When you're sick, you're green,
When you go out in the sun, you go red,
When you're cold, you go blue,
When you die, you'll be purple,
And you have the cheek to call me coloured
LikeTheSun · 22-25, F
Not really. At its most base and simplest form its a descriptor.

With that said, I'm not a fan of identity politics though and I do believe that each group of "color" has a different experience than the other.

The black experience is/can be completely different from the Asian or Hispanic/latinx experience. Piling everyone under the "poc" umbrella can be detrimental.
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
I still resent the fact that they don't think "white" people are coloured too. I've never seen white person yet.
SW-User
@ThePerfectUsername No they instead lump all of us into the "white colonist oppressors" category. They don't acknowledge white as a skin color.
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
That would depend on who "they" were bearing in mind that your they might well be different to my they.

Come to think of it though I've never met a black person either. The whole concept is symptomatic of racism and I just don't play those games.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
I actually think giving people labels of any sort is a bad idea as it actually fuels racism etc
NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
It's not an expression I've ever even thought about, I don't hear it being used. It's about 40 years ago since I last heard black people being called "coloured people", I'm not sure if that's considered appropriate these days. I've always thought it best to follow James Brown's example and use the term "black" (didn't he have a hit called "Say It Loud, I'm Black And Proud"?)
An often used term by AOC. I don't necessarily despise it, as it's been around for a time, but in her case, having been elected in yes, a stunning victory, I'm sure many people who would not fall under that term, aka whites, very likely helped get her to where she is and voted for her. That said, many of her post election speeches and topics dealt with "people of color" Where's her "inclusiveness"?
4meAndyou · F
The fifty or sixty seconds I am spending thinking about it don't bother me too much. I think pretty much ALL this PC stuff is ridiculous...but about half this country think that words and skin color are SO important they will queue up for their own destruction. By that, I mean that if you put equality before liberty, you will have neither, but if you put liberty before equality, you will have a surfeit of both.
TexChik · F
It’s an apt descriptor of the situation . For example ; [b][i]People of color[/i][/b] are prone to diseases and disorders whites are not . You have been PC’d . There was no malicious intent except on the part of leftists to restrict free speech .
SW-User
@TexChik I am not PC at all. I can't stand leftists because of their authoritarianism. I just hate the way THEY use the phrase "people of color". They use it to make it look like they are better than everyone else. There may not be malicious intent behind the phrase itself but there is malicious intent in their agenda.
TexChik · F
@SW-User I use that phrase professionally all the time . It’s completely acceptable . Inversely, Telling someone they can’t use a word or phrase ... now that’s offensive when freedom of speech is protected in the US
SW-User
@TexChik I didn't say people can't use it, I just find it kind of racist the way leftists use it. If you or anyone else wants to say it, that's your prerogative. Just as its your prerogative to disagree with my opinion.
Shaun · 26-30, M
“Person of colour” basically means “non-white”; they’re shoving everyone of different backgrounds and history into one group; blacks, latinos, asians, middle easterns, Indians etc. It’s disgusting.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Shaun In countries where white is the "default" that still makes sense.
Shaun · 26-30, M
@QuixoticSoul yes but that creates an ‘us vs. them’ mentality.
SW-User
Not once have I met someone who is a POC get offended by the term. Me included and I’m someone who uses poc to describe myself from time to time.
xixgun · M
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