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It's kind of a matter of degrees. Many nations have a few sectors socialized, such as law enforcement, infrastructure, disaster relief, medicine, etc, but are still mostly operating in free markets. Some nations have a little more socialized, like their oil industries or agriculture. And then on the other end of the spectrum you have some nations with almost everything directly or indirectly controlled by the state, at which point you are in quite communist territory, or at least communism as it has been practiced.
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hertoy · 70-79, M
I'm not a politician, but my take is in communism the state owns most everything, there can be no free trade, and the individual has few rights to them selves. Socialism is a wide variety of government types, but still the individual is at the mercy of a large controlling government.
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Jamesbo · 70-79, M
The government starts with socialism and then it turns into communism. Their moto is the end justifies the means. That's why as they turn into communism they cheat lie and steal even murder to obtain their goal. Notice if it isn't their way they don't think it is the right way. More deaths occurred in this form of government over the years.
DDonde · 31-35, M
Communism is the theoretical classless egalitarian end-game of Marxism. I don't really have a good grasp on what specifically socialism is, tbh. I have a decent grasp of the policies of the socialist parties of various countries, but I don't know how to explain it easily. But I do know that Socialism does not necessarily require the Communist end-goal. The countries that were "Communist" were basically socialist as a stepping stone to communism, which they never reached.
That's my understanding of it.
That's my understanding of it.
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MarmeeMarch · M
yep communism is fucked up and socialism is gay
MethDozer · M
According to Marx socialism is only supposed to be the transitions state into a communist society. Under socialism the state uses it's power to socialise production and attempts to evenly distribute the gains. After some magical moment the people decide to live in economic equality and come together under communism which leads to a so-called stateless society where everything is done and decided communally.
The only problem is there is no rational way to expect such a system to.possibly exist without a strong and heavy handed central authority forcing such behavior. It ignores common sense and the drive for personal survival and strengthening.
The only problem is there is no rational way to expect such a system to.possibly exist without a strong and heavy handed central authority forcing such behavior. It ignores common sense and the drive for personal survival and strengthening.
MethDozer · M
@Xuan12 It isn't about being compatible nor does it say they are.
It just says that at the far fringes their methods and behaviour become very similar. They delve into them from a of being hostile to critical thinking, exchange of ideas, authoritarian/totalitarian, and hostile to any deviation. They both create similar societies with similar atrocities. Being compatible or comming to agreement on policies and issues isn't a part of of it or an issue. A major problem with the far right and far left is they are incompatible with anything and everything else. They are both just as incompatible with the far fringes as they are with everything in between.
It just says that at the far fringes their methods and behaviour become very similar. They delve into them from a of being hostile to critical thinking, exchange of ideas, authoritarian/totalitarian, and hostile to any deviation. They both create similar societies with similar atrocities. Being compatible or comming to agreement on policies and issues isn't a part of of it or an issue. A major problem with the far right and far left is they are incompatible with anything and everything else. They are both just as incompatible with the far fringes as they are with everything in between.