People be making "us" VS "them" on a social online platform while wondering why wars exist

@Dshhh I feel like there's a story here 🤔

@Queendragonfly an old sotry told over and over again. across history
we need men to grow up , and stop being Old Boys

it would help if more women preferred Men over Boys

@Dshhh Let me guess. You're a man and you think women reject you for boys?

@Queendragonfly oh not at all! I have a pretty fine romantic life.
But I am observant of how little reason and ethics seems to be obvious in many men these days.
Some of my work is as an "adult Baby Sitter" I run two bars. It is a great place to watch human behavior.

TBH some of MY ehtical stances are not universally accepted as benign

@Dshhh My point is you're complaining about other men while you yourself have no partner.

@Queendragonfly dont assume. I do not have a bonded monogamous partner, nor do I want one. My own sexual\sensual life is closer to Poly, more than two and all that.
Have I somehow offended you? It is true that i would prefer if more fellows were more responsible.. I for one have no accidental kids..

@Dshhh You don't like it as much when the mic is pointed at you. Do you? You make assumptions about men in your bars every day. Why can't I make one about you?

You haven't offended me don't worry, I just think your attitude is poor. You're seeing yourself as such a mature good man while you sleep around and don't commit, and trash talk other men who open up to you in bars.

@Queendragonfly
since our very first interaction, you have seemed... confrontational. and yes you have made assumptions that are inaccurate

I am happy to answer any of your questions, it does not make me nervous when the mic is pointed I am even likely to give my motivations

i got no illusions about being a "good Man" I do indeed sleep around, it is my pleasure to do so with those enthusiastic about it.
i do not have men "open up to me" at work, I am not often behind he bar.. and ther "trassh talk" you seem to perceive is not about any one person at all, it is a recognition of societal values that i may or may not share.

if ou WANT confrontational lets pick a more exciting topic

@Dshhh Then say what you mean. If you are against certain values, then say that. When you say all men in your bar, you're making very large assumptions and I don't appreciate such an attitude.

@Queendragonfly genralitys and assumptions... here consider who i watch

well the demographics are quite varied, the most homogeneous population is at the college bars, as you might imagine, 21 and up, not many older than early 30's and filter that by the fact is IS a college dominated crowd, dance floor, meet up kinda space.. so it is not like there is a lot of diversity there..

the other place skews much older, a Jazz club, kinda dress code look, and a mature crowd. filter for the music, and you might get the idea of who is there.

i think i DID express my discomfort with some values,
but I'll be more direct

my responce was
that being a general discomfort for , as you suggest social media has been encourgin this us vs them perspective.. much as is done by boys in the school yard. marking the point that more and more people are acting like that, instead of a more considered approach to discourse

the Irony for me is how you have seemed to embrace that your self? making this a taking sides issue when i was actually in agreement with you to restate that agreement:

The us vs them attitude on social media is not unlike the squabbling of kids on a playground. and as many grown ups cling to this immature wrangling , it indeed is no wonder wars break out.