If you are from a country where the man who fathers the baby is required to pay child support...

It's a debate I've seen had. The winning argument seemed to be that the father was complicit and knew the risks (even with contraception). There's also an issue that no person can demand another person undertake a medical procedure.

However, we should have sympathy for people who are lied to and tricked into becoming fathers (it does happen) and then have to be financially responsible for decades through very little fault of their own.

Maybe there needs to be a sliding scale where people pay different amounts and if someone is lied to (and it can be proven), they shouldn't be as liable. Although you know this will just result in people pretending they've been lied to.

Not his body so no, he can’t decide on abortion if he can’t get pregnant. Should be rather obvious 👀

I would say the only time a man should ever be allowed to ask for their responsibilities removed is if they can prove they were trapped through seduction, happened to a cousin of mine in 1990.

That’s a tough one. It doesn’t seem fair that a man can be forced to fork up support money, IF he was sure birth control was used, and IF he made it clear to the woman beforehand that he did NOT want a kid.

But how could either of those things ever be proved? It would be a lot of he-said she-said.

Not to mention, most people probably don’t think clearly enough to talk about this in the heat of the moment.

If it can’t be proven that the woman got pregnant on purpose, knowing it was against the man’s wishes - I’d rather err on the side of caution and have the man make support payments.

Honestly, if you're a man that has sex with women, you've already accepted responsibility.

I think that if they want an abortion and the woman doesn't, they should leave. But that doesn't clear them of their responsibility. At the end of the day, it's their semen that impregnated the woman.

If a guy wants to avoid the responsibility of a child, they can just not have sex. Or get a vasectomy. But I don't think that they have the right to request an abortion when it's not even their body that's pregnant.

Yes required. No they should not be allowed to demand an abortion, that is sick.
It takes two too tango... Unless the man was held down and raped or drugged and had his semen stolen then he has a responsibility to the child that he and his child's mother created.
I don't understand why a man should get away Scot free for something he's responsible for... He's unlucky I'm the sense that once a child has been conceived he has no rights on weather its born or not but he is lucky I'm the sense that he's not the one carrying the child or the one to give birth. Theres a reason why theres more dead beat fathers than dead beat mothers... Its easier for them to get away... Lucky them.
Shared custody is different but usually theres a primary home, usually its the mother but if it is in fact the father then she should be the one to pay child support but theres so many complications... Some good women loose their children because the father is a liar with money and vice versa... That's a cruel and unfair reality.
Shared and civil custody, which ever parent earns less, which is usually the mother, the other parent should help. It is not easy to be a single parent and its not up to their new partner to provide though I don't know why anyone would be with someone who didn't look at their parents child as a part of the parcel, they should but still irrelevant. Birth parents are equally responsible but many things need to be taken into account

No. Not his body.

No. If all a guy had to do to get out of child support is demand the woman get an abortion how many guys would demand that just to get out of it? You know, no way she would get an abortion so I'll just "insist" anyway.

No man can ask unilaterally for an abortion here.
Neither to avoid his legal duties as father (even if some intent to).

Moreover, the ones who avoid (not only finantial support) but to take his place in his kids life have, here, a bad social reputation of not being men enough.

A very interesting question.

I think I'll get a vasectomy

No, weird that this is even a debate.

Unfortunately no, the guy doesn’t have a say so since it’s not in his body. But you both are at fault. If you didn’t want a baby you should have been more careful. And I mean that sincerely. With every action there comes a consequence. Even if it was accidental. You live and you learn.
I had a kid at a young age. Did I want one? No. But I took care of the child because I brought them into this world. You don’t get to knock up a woman and decide for her to have an abortion. You might as well have your balls snipped.

He should have the right to an abortion. If he gives up his rights to have a say like people here seem to think then why can't the woman give up the rights to her body by choosing to have sex with him? This is another reason average abortions just shouldn't exist in legal form, it creates complexities we shouldn't have to deal with. You have sex, you accept the child and both lose your rights by choosing sex. Same as felons choose to lose voting by committing their crimes.

Yeah we're screwed if it's an accidental pregnancy. 99% is NOT 100%