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CharlieZ · 70-79, M
No man can ask unilaterally for an abortion here.
Neither to avoid his legal duties as father (even if some intent to).
Moreover, the ones who avoid (not only finantial support) but to take his place in his kids life have, here, a bad social reputation of not being men enough.
Neither to avoid his legal duties as father (even if some intent to).
Moreover, the ones who avoid (not only finantial support) but to take his place in his kids life have, here, a bad social reputation of not being men enough.
Mamapolo2016 · F
@CharlieZ Nor here either - but if the mother can have an abortion for non-medical reasons, and the father’s life will be significantly affected as well - shouldn’t he also have the right to ‘protect his future’ by either requesting and having an abortion granted or by eliminating his responsibility for the child?
abe182 · 51-55, M
@Mamapolo2016 yes
DeezNutz · M
@Mamapolo2016 Should women have a say if a man should have a vasectomy? Let’s say he doesn’t want to and she insists....should she legally not be responsible for offspring?
Mamapolo2016 · F
Again, interesting - but that’s a ‘before the fact’ issue while pregnancy is an ‘after the fact’ one. @DeezNutz
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@Mamapolo2016 May be my STRONG fatherly reflexes make me (may be with a not fair bias) difficult to relate to that situation that I´ll refrain to comment, out of my scope.
As someones know, I used to be the "single father" of three with a non "available" mom.
This shaped my emotions and I can not grant to be too "objective".
Thinking it the other way round...
What when is the father who desires to keep the baby and rise it only by his own?
I know, to solve this collides with the woman´s choices over her body, considering the high "investment" of pregnancy.
But, in other levels (may be not practical ones), I wonder.
As someones know, I used to be the "single father" of three with a non "available" mom.
This shaped my emotions and I can not grant to be too "objective".
Thinking it the other way round...
What when is the father who desires to keep the baby and rise it only by his own?
I know, to solve this collides with the woman´s choices over her body, considering the high "investment" of pregnancy.
But, in other levels (may be not practical ones), I wonder.
Mamapolo2016 · F
@CharlieZ I knew a couple - he wanted the baby and she didn't. She carried it to term (as you say, a significant investment), and did not even want to see it. He raised his son and she had no involvement.
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@Mamapolo2016 I know, here and personally, three similar cases.
And some others somehow related even if not the same at all.
Cases of women that discovered they were not happy being also moms, and left when one or more kids where almost babies. No further involvment.
One of them, a close friend of mine (passed away by 2012) that was left with his then four years daughter.
Even my case, totally different, resulted in the same with my own daughters.
But, of course, pregnancy is another issue.
And some others somehow related even if not the same at all.
Cases of women that discovered they were not happy being also moms, and left when one or more kids where almost babies. No further involvment.
One of them, a close friend of mine (passed away by 2012) that was left with his then four years daughter.
Even my case, totally different, resulted in the same with my own daughters.
But, of course, pregnancy is another issue.




