Oh wow@iness

@Speedyman only Europeans involved in what ?
You saying no Irish ,no Chinese ? or African ?
Africans weren't sold to traders that sold them to plantation owners in American ?
And sir I do have a few friends who are laughing at the crap I seemed to have stirred ,,but I seriously doubt a 60 yr old shut in is going to do to much damage to history or inquiring minds
My family and I serve our fellow man regardless of color or nationality
As my father and his father before him and his father before him , we prefer to save lives
Take care of our own and others
I raised 10 kids and I only have 4 and we don't teach them to keep drugging up ancient wars ,especially the civil war ,that has been over 150 yrs and for some reason its still an excuse for racism on both sides
I removed my original comment ,,said I was sorry ,never called you anymore names after the A hole which I said I was sorry for too

If you want to set history straight ,by all means enlighten me
Never to old to learn ,,,
But I have nothing but time ,,,we can continue this until Christ comes ,,

I simply stated though they were the same as slaves ,,the Irish and Chinese were slaves in America before Blacks ,,
The free cruise was from a joke told by a black man I just repeated it
so PLEASE tell me what possible harm I have done ,,,especially for you to begin the conversation with me calling me names for having an opinion ?
Thats how it works now ,,if its not the same as your's I can cause "Damage "?
Glad this is not on religion and the Papacy ,,,I am sure there is where I can really do some damage ,,,Like the lady that said I was guilty of Child Abuse because my kids are Christians ? trust me sir I have been schooled by them all

and this all still only proves my point
My opinion is only allowed "IF" everyone else agrees
Though for the 3rd time I repeat ,,if what I said was wrong ,,Teach me
Show me why its wrong ,,,,I can prove the things I believe
This was all to see 1 if my opinion counts 2 if anyone disagreed were they willing to teach me ,,, yet all I am getting is crap and told if there is a problem I made it that way
I guess I got my answer ,,and thats why there is still racism in America
Its not really about learning from each other ,,,its about who is right
and there is always 2 sides to every story
With the Gospels ,,,there are 4 ,,and people still gag at a gnat ,,and swallow a camel

I'm sorry I can't really get your post but just to say all nations in their time have practiced slavery. The last nation to officially abolish slavery was Saudi Arabia in 1966. But of course there are many nations today who practice slavery even on an unofficial basis@rckt148

@Speedyman Sir I am sorry ,as I said I only have a 9th grade formal education
and I am sorry my grammar sucks ,but I try the best I can to make sure I at least spell correctly ,
I only stated "As I have read " The Irish were the first to be basically held against their will in the USA ,but because they agreed to work off their passage to come to America ,their servitude,
ser·vi·tudeDictionary result for servitude
/ˈsərvəˌt(y)o͞od/Submit
noun
the state of being a slave or completely subject to someone more powerful.
synonyms:slavery, enslavement, bondage, subjugation, subjection, domination;

Was not considered slavery ,they agreed to be in service to the traders until their debts were paid

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/us/irish-slaves-myth.html

Debunking the Myth that the Irish were not slaves ,,this is just a news article
but bias or not ,,if you look it up ,you decide ,,I have done further study on it and I believe they were indeed treated as slaves
When you take someone kids as collateral ,,I would say they were treated as property just as mush as the POW's and villagers you spoke of

History now paints the labors of the Chinese rail road crews and under paid labor and the first to have a labor strike ,

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/150-years-ago-chinese-railroad-workers-staged-era-s-largest-n774901

But further study shows not only did they never get paid ,but as the rail they were building neared completion ,they were murdered and buried in the rail bed in the very rocks they mined to build them

That was the basis of everything I originally said ,,,
Had you just asked why I said such a thing ,,rather then call be names
I would have gladly explained ,,

I not only apologized for calling an elder a name ,I also asked 3 times if I was in error for you to explain how and for you to teach me the truth and mentioned I also explained my remarks were not about world slavery ,only slaves in the USA .
(concerning America ,,not world wide slavery )

Now a man of your obvious education I am sure has a lot to offer as to teaching a little more then the history books teach ,,,,as you added about villagers being rounded up ,and POW's ,,,
Now my grammar may suck ,but I bet if your grandchild wrote this as a letter asking you to explain why my comment angered you to the point of calling me names ,
You would try a little harder to understand what he or she is saying
and give them an answer ,,I know I would

Have a good one ,,,,there is a misunderstanding not because the things I wrote are lies or myths ,or "Harmful" as you fear ,,,it just isn't as clean and cut and dry as history says it is ,,
That was in reference to your comment
" I've seen enough damage done with that half-truth "[b][/b]

My people were Saxon Vikings on my Dads side ,,Native Indians on Moms
They have different versions of their history too

Thank you for your time ,,,I won't bother you any further

@Overwatch6 Brother, the knowitall dude is on this thread. Watch out for him. He just posted a long answer.

@Overwatch6 There's always that one and watch out, he beats people up with a wooden cross.

[image deleted]@SW-User

It’s not all what they got, @SW-User

*flashes my several A+ from history class at you
I know 👀@NoSugarCoating

@wildbill83 no no... the triangle trade was more about cloth and simple glasswares going from europe to africa.... then slaves from africa to america and colonial wares most important cotton from america to europe

@wildbill83 no offense Bill ,,but who made you mayor of SW and voted on what I am allowed to say or not ?
I am never rude to you and I have seen you post some doosies
If I offended you please accept my apology
It was laced with things that I have talked about with others

But unless you know the free cruise was a joke told by Steve Harvey
well I guess it did sound racist ,,kind of like blacks can use the N word now
not that I ever did ,,just saying if something offends you so bad
why keep using it ,,,its taboo and can ruin a career if anyone else says it
But were cool ,I will try and be more thoughtful in the future

@rckt148 I said nothing about what you could say or not say. I only said your first post didn't make much sense. Generally when you quote someone, you "italicize" it.

as for the reply, I'm just telling it like it is; not some watered down, sugar coated version of events. It is what it is.

As far as "Nigger", I think it's silly when people use "N-word" instead; society & the media is full of ethnic slurs, anti semitism, anti Caucasian, etc. but they're gonna get their panties in a wad because someone said nigger... pathetic to be honest. It's not taboo, it's merely a word. It's the context in which the word is used that matters.

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-zND9Ihes]

@wildbill83 now all this we are on the same page about except the right wing left wing BS and the Republicans care for the poor BS and Democrats are all evil
Back in my childhood it was the other way around ,,and that is why I broke away from family money ,to be able to vote for who I wanted to vote for and marry who I wanted to marry ,,later my Dad did the same
I have trained black men for jobs that I was trained for ,and now I have to train someone else ,,but the black man I was training was highly educated ,hard working and was being led like a lamb to the slaughter ,they wanted him to fail
Every white man I know hated affirmative action
I live in the south ,,I was in the 3rd grade when Desegregation began
I seen Dr King march ,,I seen our President shot and didn't know it
I remember his and Roberts and Dr Kings funerals like it was yesterday

I have been involved in removing dictators ,and also guarded some we gave asylum to ,guarded Presidents sons for fishing trips
I have won a few metals for American history ,,so I have done some study
but I don't claim to be a scholar by no means

But I seen the Republicans hold both houses and nothing was done
I seen the Democrats hold both houses and nothing was done ,,they both Suck
and the meddling I speak of dealing with Russia ,,and Google ,Twitter and Face Book all testified before congress ,,the Black lives matter movement and the ban of the rebel flag was all promoted from Russia to further divide out country .

I am also tired of being blamed for slavery just for being white and from the south
kids coming onto my post and acting so superior and know it all saying being a Vet does not impress them we were just mindless robots that only know how to kill
I was in the Coast Guard ,I saved lives ,,I didn't take 1
But I have busted more then my share of illegal immigrants and drug smugglers

We see a lot of things the same ,and some not exactly on the same page
but I respect you ,all I ask is the same
I mean no one here any harm ,,,sometimes I like to kick the nest
just to see how many are arrogant ass holes ,,or mature men and women that know how to reason and get along ,,even when sometimes we don't agree
Thats democracy ,,we all have the right to speak ,and cast out lots where we will
Have a good one ,,again ,,,sorry if I offended you in any way
that was not my intentions