@FaeLuna that is scary. I don't know if I could change mine. I drive a lot of roads with no signal. Thank ya for sharing as it gave me something to check into that I would have never thought of before

@FaeLuna they shouldn’t be allowed to get away with this legally

someday I think maybe our cars will be completely sealed we won’t be able to put our own gas in we won’t be able to even open up the hood. Maybe

@ninalanyon It is relatively simple, in engineering terms, and some work-places are already installing chargers.

It would only work though in "work-places" that have suitable, employee-only car-parks. That rules out car-parks also used by the public - a problem with our County Hospital - unless the chargers have some sort of staff-only protection such as a PIN key-pad. Vulnerable to vandalism, and such sharing often means employees feeling forced to clutter up the nearest housing streets, inconveniencing the residents.

I have serious misgiving about this "most people" thing. However arithmetically true by very simple statistics, "We All" do not behave in arithmetical ways. Assuming your habits are a few miles commuting five days a week and the odd Saturday shopping expedition, does not make it accurate for everyone at all. Far from it.

I wonder how this statistic was calculated, and by whom, as though it is often repeated unquestioningly, it would seem extraordinarily difficult to establish with any notion of accuracy and credibility.

Unfortunately this sort of purely mechanical assumption appeals to politicians, the electric-car trade and so-called "lifestyle journalists". All of whom talk as if they think everyone else is like them; and have no hobbies, cultural or family life differing from theirs and beyond their city's leafy suburbs and second-homes.

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Work-place chargers may be feasible in my former employment's private car-parks, on a secure site and accommodating well over 100 cars; but in a rural location giving round-trips over 50km* for many. Mine was about 55km, some through a town. No easy public transport: no buses, the nearest railway-station over a mile away, not pleasant in bad weather. Though to be fair, its high-grade work probably meant I was among the relatively few staff unable to afford homes with drives for equally unaffordable electric cars!

(My girlfriend of the time lives in a steep, narrow street of mid-19C terraced homes with no parking in it at all. The front doors on her side of the road open straight onto the pavement. A lot of that awful, late-20C "Poundbury" estate is the same, but without hills.)

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Many commuters have daily distances much more than 50km a day, to work in urban buildings with little or no staff parking. This has been exacerbated in England by property speculators building vast housing estates next to rural towns over 100 miles from London, primarily for sale to London workers who can afford near-London home prices. Probably, mainly solicitors and money-traders on commission; I wonder how many are in important areas like health, education, non-Departmental level civil-service, and public-transport!

The railways have picked up a great deal of trade from distant commuters using their nearest railway station as an informal park-and-ride scheme. Such commuters though tend to be ones who can afford "exported suburbia" and electric cars they can charge at home, for commuting and shopping, if not distant drives.

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A friend whose work sometimes need him drive from Hampshire to Yorkshire tells me he has to re-charge his electric car at least once on the journey, and that with the heater left off in Winter. His previous petrol car would complete the round-trip on one refuelling.

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The only legal road distance units in the UK are still the Statute Mile and the Yard. So about 31 and 34 miles respectively, there. The railways still use them too, plus the Chain (22 yards).

@ArishMell The average annual driving distance should be easy as well as the distribution of annual distance. At least it is in Norway where the equivalent of the MOT records the odometer reading.

Glad to hear that someone shares my opinion of Poundbury!

@ninalanyon The MoT certificate here records the mileage as well but that alone does not give any clue as to how the vehicle is used. It might be say, 100 miles a week almost all year round, or the same 5000 crammed into not many, irregular, short breaks. (Visiting my brother would take some 800 miles in the round-trip alone.)

Poundbury's style was copied in quite a number of other developments. There is one on the edge of Shepton Mallet but it appears simply an ordinary housing-estate, and it is a lot more elegant, though still terraces with no front gardens. At least it has none of the ugly ostentation of Leon Krier's worst "carbuncles" in the original development.

My girlfriend and I walked around Poundbury's first phase not long after it started to become inhabited. We noted its small houses and miniscule back gardens, no evident car-parking areas near the homes, and front doors opening directly onto pavements covered with loose fish-tank gravel; and agreed even if we could afford it, we'd not buy one there. I admit a tiny house with hardly any garden, in the corner of a suburban housing-estate does suit many people, and is better than a flat; but it is a lot of money and pretentiousness for it.

There is a another big irony associated with it, too,

Drive up the Dorchester by-pass from its Weymouth road junction, and you see what looks like a Victorian pseudo-gothic church or crematorium high on the skyline. I think it is actually an office-block. A few hundred yards along the ridge from it is an old cafe, resembling the ordinary detached, two storey farm-house it might once have been. This became and still is, yet another MacDonalds, before "Poundbury" was started. The American firm, with its typical dislike of the aesthetics it probably can't even spell, wanted to erect a big, high 'M' sign. It was refused on landscape grounds. Good! Though I am not sure which would be worse on that hill-top: a fast-joint's glaring red-and-yellow sign, or the equally prominent, pretend Victorian crematorium.

@Longpatrol I can't even imagine what good public transit would look like. Never been to a place that had it. Now that I am wheelchair bound, I imagine "good" to me is a lot higher than when I could walk though.

@ViciDraco Our buses are wheelchair accessible, including the bus stops, our trains have lifts to get into the station and onto the platform. Buses have a special section to secure wheelchairs during the ride and has a bell situated at a convenient height.

They're even in the process of installing chair lifts to the staircases that go down into the stations

@Longpatrol around he public transportation doesn't exist

@exexec I have just one that I allow to work on my car that has always done a great job

@LilPrincess Yep, you have to trust your mechanic.

@ninalanyon if I could I would send ya some of my weather. Going to be almost 70 tomorrow.

@LilPrincess Thank you! That would be lovely, -7°C here (19°F).

@ninalanyon you're welcome. By all rights midwest weather should be that but not this year

@ninalanyon Been there.....

At least Southern English rain is almost warm!

@latinbutterfly My mother wasn't allowed to drive her first car until she showed Grandpa that she could change the tire by herself.😆

@UnderLockDown I helped my dad with my demo car. He never took his to anyone else either

@LilPrincess You drove in a demolition derby?

@QuixoticSoul I'm thankful for specialist

@PTCdresser57 I did that with my turn signal bulb. Every place was closed due to covid and I got really tired of only being able to turn left😂

Good job LilPrincess!

@PTCdresser57 thank ya

@Elisbch me too lol

I was impressed I could change the turn signal bulb and it worked

You did great! 😊👍🏻.
It's nice to be able to do a few things on a car without having to rely on someone else all the time. 😊 @LilPrincess

@LilPrincess I hate FB...drives me crazy I get lost.

@aaaabbbb I have it to keep in contact with friends and family. Plus I do comedy but haven't been I'm the mood to be funny

@LilPrincess that's cool.

Like stand-up comedy

@meJess that is great. Honestly I can't do any of that

@SethGreene531 me with most things

@LilPrincess 😅

If it already fell off, and we're still running, probably didn't need it anyway 😄

@Rhode57 sorry to hear that. My dad was a mechanic his entire life and when diabetes got the best of him he could do that kind of work

@ViciDraco I can add coolant and change my turn single bulb but that is it

@JackJames if it is simple I can

@RoxClymer guess I will give mine back

@plasticpants02 nah...I pull my pants up and I act just like that

@496sbc That is still thankfully true of many of us but unfortunately the manufacturers of cars and many other goods make it virtually impossible for an owner to carry out any but the simplest maintenance and repairs- and sometimes make any repairs impossible full-stop.

On some cars now, you can't even change a failed lamp at the roadside, because it entails removing major bodywork parts. I regard that as not only poor practical design, but so wilfully obstructive to keeping the vehicle fully legal that it should prevent the model gaining Type Approval in the first place.

@uncalled4 If I can't find how to fix it on YouTube I usually take it in😂

@LilPrincess Pushing a car is great exercise. 😉

@Atlotto yes but my kids don't agree

@LilPrincess LMAO!

@Stereoguy you are most welcome