One man in USA kills 18 and injures many today! No one needs an assault weapon ever, So sad that the USA hasn't outlawed assault weapons!

@HoraceGreenley BULLLSHITTT, as usual. Yeah, I'm sure you found a way to re-define assault rifle to be the empty set, but in the real world they're used more and more in mass killings.

@HoraceGreenley It's amazing how fast mental illness is blamed when these situations occurr. Was this guy's mental evaluation relased publicly to backup that claim?

The guy was a 40yo fiream instructor in the Army reserve and assigned to a training facility. I bet we all know who he voted for.

@ElwoodBlues Talking to you about firearms is like talking to a virgin about sex.

You don't know what an assault rifle is. The organization making this chart doesn't know what an assault rifle is either. Whatever they think an assault rifle is, is wrong.

Come to think of it you're a virgin too.

@HoraceGreenley You forgot your "thoughts & prayers"!

While you & the NRA try to pretend you can re-define the words and thus erase the problem, Americans want to re-instate 1994 the assault weapons ban.

@ElwoodBlues
Fine. I stand by my statement.

@HoraceGreenley Your sophistry and word games are irrelevant.

Uvalde: AR-15
Buffalo: AR-15
Boulder: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Parkland: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Aurora, CO: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Waffle House: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15
Midland/Odessa: AR-15
Poway synagogue: AR-15
Sutherland Springs: AR-15
Tree of Life Synagogue: AR-15
[big]Lewiston: AR-15[/big]

@ElwoodBlues agai the AR-15 is not an assault rifle. There are plenty of other rifles that are more powerful and are more deadly.

The AR-15 is inexpensive

@HoraceGreenley So that makes it ok?

@Carazaa No. It makes it convenient.

If there were no AR-15s some other weapon would be used.

It's not the rifle that is the problem. It's how we handle mental illness.

@HoraceGreenley You once said you lived in Massachusetts; Boston area. So I found this:

[quote] [b]What type of weapons are prohibited as “copies or duplicates” of the Assault Weapons listed in G.L. c. 140, § 121?[/b]
Under Massachusetts law, Assault Weapons are defined in several ways...

... The weapon’s internal functional components are substantially similar to the construction or configuration of a weapon that is expressly banned under the law (such as a Colt AR-15 or a Kalashnikov AK-47); ... [/quote]
[b]https://www.mass.gov/guides/frequently-asked-questions-about-the-assault-weapons-ban-enforcement-notice[/b]

Under your state laws, the AR-15 is listed among banned assault weapons. [u]Legally, the AR-15 is an assault weapon.[/u] Now you're gonna tell us you know better than your state lawmakers??? [i]RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT[/i]

UPDATE: California bans assault weapons including the AR-15 as well. A total of 10 states do. I expect Maine will be #11.

@HoraceGreenley [quote]It's not the rifle that is the problem. It's how we handle mental illness. [/quote]
So would you accept a national law that says guns can only be purchased by licensed citizens and one component of licensing is a clean bill from the mental health profession? Or are you just deflecting??

P.S. in 27 states you can buy a gun without a license or permit. Are you suggesting we require licenses and permits everywhere??

@ElwoodBlues Good point!

@ElwoodBlues [quote]So would you accept a national law that says guns can only be purchased by licensed citizens and one component of licensing is a clean bill from the mental health profession?[/quote]
Oh nooo that would be gun control and mean America wouldn't be free anymore, [b][big]OH NO[/big][/b] 😂

@HoraceGreenley 😘I am only kidding with you! I appreciate your comments even though I disagree at times.

@ElwoodBlues Yes, I know better than the state lawmakers. Their terminology is for marketing purposes and not reality.

You can still own an AR-15 in Massachusetts. There are certain features, mostly cosmetic, that are illegal, but aside from them you can own an AR-15.

@HoraceGreenley DEAD WRONG!! As usual!!!

Read it and weep:
... configuration of a weapon that is expressly banned under the law (such as a Colt AR-15 or a Kalashnikov AK-47) ...

Mass state law defines the Colt AR-15 as an assault weapon and bans it by name. We know you're too insecure to ever admit you could be wrong, but the AR-15 is an assault weapon by law, and as such is banned in your home state.

[quote]It's not the rifle that is the problem. It's how we handle mental illness.[/quote]
So would you accept a national law that says guns can only be purchased by licensed citizens and one component of licensing is a clean bill from the mental health profession? Or are you just deflecting??

P.S. in 27 states you can buy a gun without a license or permit. Are you suggesting we require licenses and permits everywhere??

@ElwoodBlues
The Massachusetts House of Representatives has passed a bill that would bsn the AR-15. However that bill has not been passed by the the Senate.

It is not a law.

Thanks for playing. You get a year's supply of Jiffy Pop popcorn.

@HoraceGreenley says [quote]The US doesn't allow private citizens to own assault rifles. There are some exceptions but assault rifles have not been used in any shootings.[/quote] and [quote] agai{n} the AR-15 is not an assault rifle.[/quote]
[b]!!! DEAD WRONG !!![/b] As usual !!!

I cited it to you once already! In your home state, the AR-15 is explicitly designated as an assault weapon!! Look up Massachusetts General Laws chapter 140, § 121
[quote] ''Assault weapon'', shall have the same meaning as ... and shall include, but not be limited to ... Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models); ... Colt AR–15 ... [/quote]
[b]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section121[/b]

A following section, §123, Conditions of licenses, declares the assault weapons defined in §121 to be illegal under the license granted.
[quote] ... no licensee shall sell, lease, rent, transfer or deliver or offer for sale, lease, rent, transfer or delivery to any person any assault weapon or large capacity feeding device ...[/quote]
[b]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section123[/b]

Representatives of the good people of Massachusetts passed the law in 1998 and made it permanent in 2004. BTW, a "large capacity feeding device" is an accessory NOT an "arm" and thus not covered by the 2nd Amendment.

For further info see
[quote]On July 20, 2016, the Attorney General issued an Enforcement Notice on Prohibited Assault Weapons that provides gun manufacturers, licensed dealers, and the public with guidance on the Assault Weapons ban. In particular, the notice explains how the Attorney General identifies weapons that are prohibited as “copies” or “duplicates” of the enumerated banned Assault Weapons that are listed in Massachusetts law.

This FAQ is intended to summarize the Enforcement Notice. [/quote] [b]https://www.mass.gov/guides/frequently-asked-questions-about-the-assault-weapons-ban-enforcement-notice[/b]

As I said, dude, you are !!! DEAD WRONG !!! As usual !!!

[c=BF0000][b][i]The trouble with our conservative friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. [/i][/b][/c]

@ElwoodBlues
Once again you display a shocking amount of ignorance.

1. Section 121
The Mass legislature may define anything as an "assault weapon" including a BB Gun. But in reality, an assault weapon must be fully automatic. If it is not fully automatic, i.e., a "machine gun", it can't be an assault weapon. But the Mass Legislature if free to do as it wishes, even if that means inventing its own reality.

Nothing in Section 121 prohibits the sale or ownership of an AR-15. Wrong again dude.

2. Section 123 -
This section doesn't prohibt the sale or ownership of an AR-15 either. It's sale or ownership is prohibited under certain circumstance, such has having a magazine with a capicty over 10 rounds, but AR-15s may be legally purchased and owned. Therefore, Firearms and magazines made before September 13, 1994 (the day the law went into effect) were exempt from the law. In other words they may be purchased and owned legally and this includes the AR-15.

3. The FAQ

The AR-15 may not be sold either by a dealer or privately after 7/20/2016.

So the rules are convoluted, as you would expect from a Liberal-Weenie like you. But AR-15s are not illegal if purchased under the correct circumstances.

The Trouble with our liberal friends is that they are ignorant; but yet display so much obnoxious behavior to cover up their ignorance.

@HoraceGreenley OK, I understand that in horace-fragile-ego-land, the AR-15 is not an assault weapon, but [i]BY LAW,[/i] where you live, the AR-15 [b]IS[/b] an assault weapon.

"Can I own an AR-15 in Massachusetts?" Any semi-automatic rifle that is not specifically named in the Assault Weapons Ban is legal.

However, the AR-15 is specifically named in the Assault Weapons Ban. Look up Massachusetts General Laws chapter 140, § 121
[quote] ''Assault weapon'', shall have the same meaning as ... and shall include, but not be limited to ... Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models); ... Colt AR–15 ... [/quote]
[b]https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section121[/b]

Representatives of the good people of Massachusetts passed the law in 1998 and made it permanent in 2004. BTW, a "large capacity feeding device" is an accessory NOT an "arm" and thus not covered by the 2nd Amendment.

For further info see
[quote]On July 20, 2016, the Attorney General issued an Enforcement Notice on Prohibited Assault Weapons that provides gun manufacturers, licensed dealers, and the public with guidance on the Assault Weapons ban. In particular, the notice explains how the Attorney General identifies weapons that are prohibited as “copies” or “duplicates” of the enumerated banned Assault Weapons that are listed in Massachusetts law.

This FAQ is intended to summarize the Enforcement Notice. [/quote] [b]https://www.mass.gov/guides/frequently-asked-questions-about-the-assault-weapons-ban-enforcement-notice[/b]

As I said, dude, you are !!! DEAD WRONG !!! As usual !!!

[c=BF0000][b][i]The trouble with our conservative friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. [/i][/b][/c]

@ElwoodBlues You can still own an AR-15 as long as the magazine is no more than 10 rounds.

[i][b][c=BF0000]The Trouble with our liberal friends is that they are ignorant; but yet display so much obnoxious behavior to cover up their ignorance.[/c][/b][/i]

@HoraceGreenley says [quote]agai the AR-15 is not an assault rifle.[/quote] DEAD WRONG!! By your own state laws - General Laws chapter 140, § 121 - it IS an assault weapon.

[quote]The Massachusetts House of Representatives has passed a bill that would bsn the AR-15. However that bill has not been passed by the the Senate.

It is not a law. [/quote]
DEAD WRONG!! By your own state laws - General Laws chapter 140, § 123 - it IS banned from purchase or sale.

You may be able to OWN a pre-1994 AR-15 with a small magazine, but you can't buy or sell ANY AR-15.

[c=BF0000][b][i]The trouble with our conservative friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. [/i][/b][/c]

@ElwoodBlues To the rest of the world, that knows what firearms are, any semi-automatic rifle is not an assault weapon. The legislature can call it what they want. You can own an AR-15.

As i said, you can still own an AR-15 under the right circumstances.

[c=BF0000][b][i]The Trouble with our liberal friends is that they are ignorant; but yet display so much obnoxious behavior to cover up their ignorance.[/i][/b][/c]

@ElwoodBlues It's nuanced. Up until a couple of years ago you could by them as long as they weren't "name brand" and containing certain features . So basically any AR-15 that wasn't a Colt and had a pinned stock and anon threaded muzzle. Since 2016 no new sales are allowed but private sales or sales of used existed stock are allowed.

@HoraceGreenley assault rifle really is an arbitrary legal term. It's whatever it wants to be defined as. It's like arguing that a person who has sex with a 14 year old isn't pedophile because technically speaking a pedophile is someone who is attracted to prepubescents. Legal jargon works differently though for the sake of pragmatics.