Even with a billion dollars, what is one thing you’d never buy?

@saragoodtimes Why, do you hate being able to breathe the air?

@LordShadowfire the energy needed to mine the components for the batteries creates more pollution than all the gasoline engines

@saragoodtimes I keep hearing that. But I'm not sure I trust the people who keep saying it.

@LordShadowfire not to mention the libs are shutting down coal and gas fired electric plants. where's the lectric going to come from to recharge those batteries

@saragoodtimes I'm sorry. Are you seriously advocating for one of the dirtiest fuels on the planet to continue to be used instead of solar or wind power? I think we're done here.

@saragoodtimes says FALSE!!

Electric cars have a FAR lower lifetime CO2 footprint and a FAR lower lifetime energy footprint. Since energy correlates closely to dollars, it means electric cars have a far lower total cost of ownership.

These graphs are for Vancouver CA in 2018, so energy costs are similar to the US; however energy is represented in megajoules - there are 3.6 MJ in a KWH, and 1 MJ = .37 horsepower hours. It assumes 150,000Km of travel over the life of the car, about 93,000 miles.

Lifecycle CO2 costs (these include extracting & transporting oil)

Lifecycle energy costs

Source: https://sustain.ubc.ca/sites/default/files/2018-63%20Lifecycle%20Analysis%20of%20Electric%20Vehicles_Kukreja.pdf

And yes, the US has the electric capacity. Now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2021/11/13/electricity-grids-can-handle-electric-vehicles-easily--they-just-need-proper-management/


Wind, solar, and nuclear; surely you've heard of them??