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SandWitch · 26-30, F
Most Americans today are not aware that Independence Day is about their American ancestors who fled from King George III of Great Britain over 250 years ago. Independence Day is the American celebration of an entire culture of British commoners who fled to North America to live a life of freedom by becoming independent of England and it's dictator King.
What's amazing to me is the USA's insatiable need to continue celebrating this simple act of pulling up stakes and moving to another country. When you look around, people are doing this all the time.
Why are Americans still celebrating their break from England over 250 years ago, when in fact American culture is almost identical to British culture today?
What's amazing to me is the USA's insatiable need to continue celebrating this simple act of pulling up stakes and moving to another country. When you look around, people are doing this all the time.
Why are Americans still celebrating their break from England over 250 years ago, when in fact American culture is almost identical to British culture today?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@SandWitch
the British culture or the British people? I have practically zero shared DNA with the British, yet I find them the most likable, the most accommodating, the most trusting. Maybe it’s their chattiness, their non-pretentious nature.
I recall an incident in Paris, at a perfume shop with a crew member, looking to take advantage of our brief time there. The shop clerk approached and explained that the elderly British lady by the cash register felt uncomfortable about walking alone to her hotel just two or three blocks away, and she asked the clerk to ask us if we would be so kind as to escort her back to her hotel. We responded that we would be happy to do so. The shop clerk accompanied us to the lady and did a no name introduction, referencing us as gentlemen and lady. We engaged her with polite small talk while completing our purchases, then accommodated her the few blocks to her hotel. At the hotel entrance a doorman held the door open as we wished the lady a safe trip back to London.
Such an incident happened only one other time in my life. At my local health club, a lady, a total stranger, sitting on a bench by the front door. As I was leaving she asked me if I would be so kind as to give her a lift back home, that her husband was delayed. Sure. In the light hearted chit-chat I discovered that she was British :)
the British culture or the British people? I have practically zero shared DNA with the British, yet I find them the most likable, the most accommodating, the most trusting. Maybe it’s their chattiness, their non-pretentious nature.
I recall an incident in Paris, at a perfume shop with a crew member, looking to take advantage of our brief time there. The shop clerk approached and explained that the elderly British lady by the cash register felt uncomfortable about walking alone to her hotel just two or three blocks away, and she asked the clerk to ask us if we would be so kind as to escort her back to her hotel. We responded that we would be happy to do so. The shop clerk accompanied us to the lady and did a no name introduction, referencing us as gentlemen and lady. We engaged her with polite small talk while completing our purchases, then accommodated her the few blocks to her hotel. At the hotel entrance a doorman held the door open as we wished the lady a safe trip back to London.
Such an incident happened only one other time in my life. At my local health club, a lady, a total stranger, sitting on a bench by the front door. As I was leaving she asked me if I would be so kind as to give her a lift back home, that her husband was delayed. Sure. In the light hearted chit-chat I discovered that she was British :)
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@Heartlander
The British culture IS the British people. Without the people, there'd be no culture.
The British culture IS the British people. Without the people, there'd be no culture.
RedGrizzly · 26-30, F
@SandWitch I agree with your historical analysis but to clear the confusion on why we celebrate independence day religiously is because we had almost lost that war. It's not well known that a rough estimate of 3% of the colonists fought in the Revolutionary war against the British Navy and ground troops. Idk why it was only so few, maybe lack of faith we'd actually succeed, rough lives in the New World trying to survive, or just complete fear. It was when the French intervened and George Washington's spies that we were actually able to gain the advantage to turn the tables. If not, this land would belong to several countries and America as a superpower would not exist...EVER.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@SandWitch I understand, but I draw a bit of distinction between the people and the culture because my fondness of the people don’t always extend to British institutions, which at times behaves like bullies.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@RedGrizzly
The USA still celebrates Independence Day religiously because it had almost lost that war? 🤣 That conclusion of your's is actually laughable! 250+ years ago, I may have gone along with your analogy, but seriously, that reason you give that America had almost lost that war and therefore celebrate today because they almost didn't win, simply doesn't fly nor continue to fly not long after the smoke cleared!
The American Revolutionary War took place over 250 years ago! And now you're trying to tell me that the USA celebrates Independence Day religiously these days because they almost lost a war that took place closer to 300 years ago than 200 years ago?! Like, WTF! Get real!
The truth is, you don't have a clue nor does the USA as a Nation have a clue why Americans feel the insatiable need to celebrate Independence Day like they had just won a war, other than the obvious reason for celebration which was America's total gain of independence from Great Britain in the mid-1700's, which of course was coincident with the birth of this new Nation called 'America'.
For you to suggest that "America as a superpower would not exist...EVER" had they lost the American Revolutionary War over 250 years ago, thus being the reason Americans today celebrate Independence Day that is based on an event that took place over 250 years after that war ended, is an extremely far-reach of creative imagination on your part!
Independence Day in the USA today means nothing more than a date on the calendar which commemorates the day in each calendar year when the USA became a Nation unto itself and broke free from Great Britain ...and that's really the end of the story.
But honestly, that's all very nice that America broke free from King George III of Great Britain back in the day, but many other countries around the world went through the same thing with Great Britain and many countries today are still breaking away from Great Britain.
Those achievements of independence from Great Britain involving other Nations have never been presented on the world stage as being the big deal that the USA has always made of Independence Day for itself, but those other Nations do celebrate their own Independence Day on the calendar date that it happened for each country involved. And that's all we're really talking about with the USA as well, as being the date America became it's own Nation after it divorced it's ties with Great Britain.
I agree with your historical analysis but to clear the confusion on why we celebrate independence day religiously is because we had almost lost that war.
The USA still celebrates Independence Day religiously because it had almost lost that war? 🤣 That conclusion of your's is actually laughable! 250+ years ago, I may have gone along with your analogy, but seriously, that reason you give that America had almost lost that war and therefore celebrate today because they almost didn't win, simply doesn't fly nor continue to fly not long after the smoke cleared!
The American Revolutionary War took place over 250 years ago! And now you're trying to tell me that the USA celebrates Independence Day religiously these days because they almost lost a war that took place closer to 300 years ago than 200 years ago?! Like, WTF! Get real!
The truth is, you don't have a clue nor does the USA as a Nation have a clue why Americans feel the insatiable need to celebrate Independence Day like they had just won a war, other than the obvious reason for celebration which was America's total gain of independence from Great Britain in the mid-1700's, which of course was coincident with the birth of this new Nation called 'America'.
For you to suggest that "America as a superpower would not exist...EVER" had they lost the American Revolutionary War over 250 years ago, thus being the reason Americans today celebrate Independence Day that is based on an event that took place over 250 years after that war ended, is an extremely far-reach of creative imagination on your part!
Independence Day in the USA today means nothing more than a date on the calendar which commemorates the day in each calendar year when the USA became a Nation unto itself and broke free from Great Britain ...and that's really the end of the story.
But honestly, that's all very nice that America broke free from King George III of Great Britain back in the day, but many other countries around the world went through the same thing with Great Britain and many countries today are still breaking away from Great Britain.
Those achievements of independence from Great Britain involving other Nations have never been presented on the world stage as being the big deal that the USA has always made of Independence Day for itself, but those other Nations do celebrate their own Independence Day on the calendar date that it happened for each country involved. And that's all we're really talking about with the USA as well, as being the date America became it's own Nation after it divorced it's ties with Great Britain.
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