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SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
A therapist who cannot heal herself is not a therapist!
Forgive your husband and your patient
Forgive your husband and your patient
JustJan · F
@SilentObZerver yes forgive them both with his stuff thrown out the door and the patients therapy extended with extra charges with out telling either you know, thats good self healing
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@JustJan The next time another patient comes to you , with a similar issue of cheating with someone's husband, she will not give any professional advice.....
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SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@James25 these days guess its normal to bandy words like "misogynist" about.....
Especially if they disagree with you but cant find a proper way to articulate it
Especially if they disagree with you but cant find a proper way to articulate it
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James25 · 61-69, M
@SilentObZerver let me articulate someone who dislikes despises or is strongly prejudiced against women
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@James25 so how does my statement fit this description.....
You are only defining who a misogynist is, but not what makes my statement misogynistic
You are only defining who a misogynist is, but not what makes my statement misogynistic
James25 · 61-69, M
@SilentObZerver since you mentioned forgiveness you must be one of those misogynistic religious types because you do not hold men responsible for their behavior and always blame the women. You expect a woman to be forgiving and not hold the man responsible for his behavior. That is a very specific religious misogynistic attitude. With many examples of it found in the Bible. This is an example of showing prejudice against women.
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@JustJan if once a cheat always a cheat,
Then once a therapist, always a therapist...
If a therapist cannot help herself then ....how can s/he simply help others especially with similar situations
And forgiveness....doesn’t necessarily mean taking the one who offended or hurt you back....
Then once a therapist, always a therapist...
If a therapist cannot help herself then ....how can s/he simply help others especially with similar situations
And forgiveness....doesn’t necessarily mean taking the one who offended or hurt you back....
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@James25 stop projecting your pet peeves on me!
First of all as Therapist she may have encountered several stories of husband's cheating on their wives,
And based on her advice she gave to her patients, she should be able to help herself
Unless its from the text books
But nowhere have i justified cheating.....
And forgiving her husband doesn't in any way presuppose that you have to accept them or take them back .....
First of all as Therapist she may have encountered several stories of husband's cheating on their wives,
And based on her advice she gave to her patients, she should be able to help herself
Unless its from the text books
But nowhere have i justified cheating.....
And forgiving her husband doesn't in any way presuppose that you have to accept them or take them back .....
James25 · 61-69, M
@SilentObZerver in your original statement you made the preconceived opinion that it is a woman's responsibility to forgive without mentioning the responsibility of the husband. You did not mention at all the husband's responsibility in cheating you put everything on the woman. That is a prejudicial opinion against this woman. Which is misogynistic in its nature.
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@James25 ok
ffony · M
@SilentObZerver What was your user name again ????
OogieBoogie · F
@SilentObZerver
Im not sure where you got this pholosophy from, but from my experience and knowledge, its a very unfair and innacurate thing to say.
It's kind of like saying "see that person stuck in a mud hole - why dont they dig themselves out, they have a shovel?".
More often than not, when a person is too close to a situation they are already half mentally/emotionally taxed it blinds them from clarity. In fact, thats a huge part of therapy - getting the client to come to their own realisations of clarity by nudging their thought process.
Its very hard to nudge your own thoughts in the right direction when you are hurting or messed up.
Sometimes the even blatantly obvious eludes us.
Its common practice for therapists to see their own therapists to 'double check' to get 'a second opinion' not only on their clients, but themselves.
I would even suggest that a good therapist, has their own therapist.
. A therapist who cannot heal herself is not a therapist
Im not sure where you got this pholosophy from, but from my experience and knowledge, its a very unfair and innacurate thing to say.
It's kind of like saying "see that person stuck in a mud hole - why dont they dig themselves out, they have a shovel?".
More often than not, when a person is too close to a situation they are already half mentally/emotionally taxed it blinds them from clarity. In fact, thats a huge part of therapy - getting the client to come to their own realisations of clarity by nudging their thought process.
Its very hard to nudge your own thoughts in the right direction when you are hurting or messed up.
Sometimes the even blatantly obvious eludes us.
Its common practice for therapists to see their own therapists to 'double check' to get 'a second opinion' not only on their clients, but themselves.
I would even suggest that a good therapist, has their own therapist.
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@OogieBoogie clearly said in jest....
But i also think its a huge challenge for her to now see herself in the shoes of the patients who constantly come to her for therapy
But i also think its a huge challenge for her to now see herself in the shoes of the patients who constantly come to her for therapy
OogieBoogie · F
@SilentObZerver hmmm🤔
I think my point is - is it possible?
If someone stabbed you, could you even bring your mind, (while in pain), to empathize with your attacker ?
I think my point is - is it possible?
If someone stabbed you, could you even bring your mind, (while in pain), to empathize with your attacker ?
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@OogieBoogie obviously not....
But if you are trained to emphatize with such people who have had similar experience and also you having to listen to several people go through such situations, you begin to appreciate what it means to suffer such fate
But if you are trained to emphatize with such people who have had similar experience and also you having to listen to several people go through such situations, you begin to appreciate what it means to suffer such fate
OogieBoogie · F
@SilentObZerver aye.
....but from obectivity.
This isn't an objective situation, its become subjective .
She is the one now suffering more than her client, because of her client.
Her patient has just become her attacker.
Its is now no longer a simple patient/doctor relationship - it is now also an abuser/victim relationship.
....but from obectivity.
This isn't an objective situation, its become subjective .
She is the one now suffering more than her client, because of her client.
Her patient has just become her attacker.
Its is now no longer a simple patient/doctor relationship - it is now also an abuser/victim relationship.
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@OogieBoogie yeah true...
Very difficult situation she finds herself...
She will probably need a therapist herself
Very difficult situation she finds herself...
She will probably need a therapist herself
James25 · 61-69, M
@OogieBoogie if you are causing harm to another person then confidentiality does not apply
OogieBoogie · F
@SilentObZerver and a lawyer.
SilentObZerver · 22-25, M
@OogieBoogie rightly so!
OogieBoogie · F
@James25 i didnt know that, but it makes complete sense .
I mean, if a therapist discovers you are harming yourself - confidentiality goes out the window due to duty of care.🤷
I mean, if a therapist discovers you are harming yourself - confidentiality goes out the window due to duty of care.🤷