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If a person uses deception to gain something, is it really a win?

What it says to me is that they have no confidence in achieving it by being real.
This win would be hollow at best.
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CheshireCatalyst · 41-45, M
I love this question.

There are some competitions where using deception is part of the challenge. Negotiation, chess, football. It's inherent.

But in life? I think it's abhorrent to deceive people to get what you want, yet there's a whole section of society (the right wing conmen who are stealing our world) who see it as a hack, a shortcut, they think they can see the matrix and the rest of us are stupid for being honest.

They think they're Vikings sailing to pillage foreign shores, walking into a church and finding no guards, no locks, just faith that nobody would defile the sanctity of holy ground. They're laughing at us as we insist they tell the truth, and they're thinking "Why would I? I've not faced any negative consequences for the lies!"
SW-User
@CheshireCatalyst I'm getting chills. It's like you read my mind...almost word for word.
CheshireCatalyst · 41-45, M
@SW-User I've been listening to too many episodes of 'Behind the Bastards'!

https://www.behindthebastards.com/
SW-User
@CheshireCatalyst Well, in life I use deception on authority figures when it's necessary. There aren't a lot of options where there's a big power imbalance like that, and it's not like they have a problem being deceptive to me.
CheshireCatalyst · 41-45, M
@SW-User I think that's valid, because it's the only way they know how to operate. We've not found a defence against it yet except to try and beat them at their own game.
SW-User
@CheshireCatalyst Ah I see. I've been thinking along those lines but I picked up different things from different articles and somehow linked it all into something very similar to yours.

Then there is a Netflix show - What If - that raises a lot of such questions.
CheshireCatalyst · 41-45, M
@SW-User ooh I'll add it to my list :)
SW-User
@CheshireCatalyst I think you'll really like it. :)
CheshireCatalyst · 41-45, M
@SW-User there are two shows called What If on Netflix! 😮 Which one is it?
What if you’ve been deceived by someone and cut that someone’s throat as a result? @CheshireCatalyst
Is all okay? @CheshireCatalyst
SW-User
@CheshireCatalyst The one with Renee Zellweger.