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In your opinion, what do you think about fat acceptance?

In my opinion, yes, we all have to respect everyone whether they are different and accept them for who they are. But, I don't like the idea of fat acceptance. People with overweight body is unhealthy, and that is a fact! They can live with many sicknesses due to their unhealthy body. And support them to stay in their body is a bad idea! Instead of judging them for their size, why don't we support them to become healthy? I mean become healthy is not about having a nice, fit body. It's about keeping balance in health and have a healthy lifestyle.

What do you think?
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QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
We should accept fat people. Not everybody is perfect. Not everyone is capable of living a healthy lifestyle. I don’t think being fat should be promoted but we should accept it. Accept, as in not be assholes or tell other people how to live their lives just because they are fat.
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun Everyone is responsible for their health, so irresponsibility should not be enabled
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@Shaman Accepting is not enabling. You said it yourself. Everyone is responsible for their own bodies. Not anyone else’s.
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun You are stating me falsely. I never said "nobody is responsible for anyone else's health"
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun In this context, acceptence is more of used for enabling for certain people who instead should be supported to better themselves
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@Shaman Completely disagree. Acceptance is not enabling. The definition of “bettering one self” is semantic and relative. Just because you think a certain way doesn’t not give you the right or excuse to tell other people how to live their lives.

Not everybody is capable of losing weight. It can be very hard for some people and in uncommon cases, nearly impossible. Everyone has flaws and not every “flaw” in someone is fixable. People are imperfect. Being fat doesn’t make someone less of a person nor should they be pressured into conforming if they don’t want to.

They’re are worse things someone can be in this world then fat. Preach all you want but you aren’t going to stop people from having flaws.

To put it bluntly, mind your own business.
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun Okay, I get your point. Now try to understand mine.

Though the better situation is relative, it wouldn't be illogical to suggest that a situation where a person's wight does not affect their health is better than a situation where it does.

Everbody is capable of that. Some people require more effort and support than others. But as humans we have an ability to achieve what we want in the cases we actually do want it.

Flaws exist so we can better ourselves on them. I never suggested that having flaws is a bad thing. The way you put your arguments implies that I am against being fat in an unhumanitarian way. On the contrary, I suggest my ideas for the benevolence of those individuals rather than my aesthetical purposes.

Suggesting that there are worse things than being fat in an unhealthy way does not change the fact that it is still unhealthy and thus bad.

As a human, my business includes minding other humans health as well as mine.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@Shaman For somebody who tries or at least in my eyes, takes time to come off as a well balanced Indivdual, you sound dangerously arrogant.

Other people’s bodies and what they do with them is not your business. You sound narcisstic, like your entitled to tell other people your opinion because they have a flaw you don’t have (assuming you aren’t fat) Yes flaws exist so we can better ourselves. But some are permanent. If all flaws are fixable, then why don’t perfect people exist? We are all flawed, until the day we die.

None of us will ever be perfect. Some of us will always drink more then we should. Eat more then we should. Be more angry then we should. And that’s okay. As long as you make up for it by having more strengths then weakness’. That’s what really matters.

Not conforming to specific notion of what a healthy human being should look like.
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun I think your vision of me blinded by some other issue. I won't suggest another argument because I think I explained myself.

I am curious about your arguments though. What made you the impression that I am arrogant and narcissistic?

I think what makes a person perfect is that they put effort to get themselves better.