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Without mentioning the United States' 45th president,

what's a major event that you swore would never happen that actually happened?
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Without mentioning the corrupt, narcissistic reality show host with probable Mafia ties, I would say the Russian invasion...

Oh, never mind. He helped bring that about by denying Ukraine military aid they desperately needed, so that is a taboo topic.

Ah, but there was the pandemic...

But he was at least partly responsible for that as well, so that is off limits.

Well, there was the uptick in railroad accidents...

Oh, but he caused that by rolling back safety regulations, so I cannot mention that.

There was the overturning of [i]Roe v. Wade[/i]...

Oh, but I cannot mention that because he was responsible for appointing the judges who brought that about.

I have nothing.
Dustyhands · 46-50, M
@CorvusBlackthorne responding here because I want to come back to this when I have more time to respond. So much to unpack there.
@Dustyhands Therre are so many FOX talking points to copy and paste, huh?
Dustyhands · 46-50, M
@MaBalzEsHari oh no… quite the contrary. I think too many people see black and white/red or blue and there’s nothing in between-no room for nuance. Im not a fan of Trump, but I think in answer to the original question, the pandemic is something that most people thought wouldn’t happen, but it did. I don’t think Trump should be blamed for it. Whether it was a lab leak or bats/raccoons/dogs in a wet market is irrelevant. He didn’t cause it, but under his administration there was ample funding for the unprecedented development of a vaccine in about a year. I do blame him for not embracing that and blame the Biden administration for not messaging it that the vaccine isn’t perfect but it’s extremely beneficial. It became (like masks) a right/left red/blue issue which was a travesty.
Yes, Trumps infamous phone call with Zelensky was about military aid to Ukraine, but the war is at the hands of Putin, not Trump.
Yes, Trump eliminated some train safety regulations, but those would not have prevented the massive derailment and its aftermath.
I blame the Senate Republicans more than Trump for not voting in Merrick Garland for over a year yet shoving in a justice at the very last minute.
Is Trump corrupt, and incompetent, and likely beholden to foreign (largely Russian) influence? Yep.
But the left is so Trump-obsessed that they see him as the root of every issue, which is inaccurate.
@Dustyhands I agree with most of what you say. I do not think the pandemic was trump's fault......but I believe he induced many to die that did not have too by dissing his own vaccine and masking to an audience that he knew was so gullible to all he said that he literally persuaded many more to die than would have been the case if he had of spoke in ways that let them know how serious COVID is..

I agree train derailments would have occurred no matter what, but with safety measures still in place------that trump removed----there would not have been hazardous cargos allowed to travel rail lines thru densely populated areas, Braking fail safes would have still been in place, and an extra man in the cab would have been mandatory to handle a situation. Additionally, stiff penalties would still be in place to require railroads to pay for the damages done after a derailment.

Ditto for leading Congress into repealing Dodd-Frank and various other banking regulations that was completely responsible for recent bank failures.
@Dustyhands I feel like the decisions that were made during the Trump administration were mostly his ideas, is the problem. Yes, it's true, the GOP in general are responsible for the fact that Obama wasn't permitted to name a Supreme Court judge, but if you look at the people who got the job, they are totally people Trump would get drunk with after work.

Regarding the railroads, I don't know personally what language was in the safety regulations he rolled back, so you can probably convince me with little effort that the regulations were already insufficient, but come on. Surely you don't agree that there needed to be fewer safety regulations?

And yes, Vladimir Putin is the one who chose to invade Ukraine, but only after specifically telling Trump he wanted him to stop giving them military aid. He didn't call the Senate. He didn't call the House. He called the president.

The pandemic wasn't started by him, either, but he was there every day on television, contradicting the things that were said by the medical experts and creating confusion. And his proposed travel bans on China and other countries had exceptions for the type of people he liked, so they were basically useless. You're right that he had a good idea incentivizing the pharmaceutical companies to come up with a vaccine quickly. I give him credit for that. He knows how to motivate greedy people.

I note that you don't address the fact that he rolled back parts of the Dodd-Frank Act which led directly to the current banking crisis.
originnone · 61-69, M
@LordShadowfire I don't know the specifics about what was rolled back on Dodd-Frank, but I do remember reading a lot when the act was created; it wasn't really intended that all the items in the bill would remain in place forever, so it really doesn't surprise me that he rolled some things back....
@originnone Well, clearly it was the right decision, given the current state of the banks. Bravo Donald.