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meJess · F
South Africa, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Ghana, India, China, Japan, Korea, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Dubai, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, Syria……..
Oh you mean your neighbourhood.
Oh you mean your neighbourhood.
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess Economically, which is what really matters, whites in Africa are top.
meJess · F
@ImNotHungry where is that? There is no white rule in Africa is there and the economics favour the ruling party. Zanu PF in Zimbabwe for instance.
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess I said in Africa, wherever you have white people. But the most glaring example is SA. Just look up the stats on employment, education, life expectancy... Etc.
meJess · F
@ImNotHungry is that why whites are leaving SA? They might have money but they are not on top in society as the poster suggested.
Zimbabwe is in Africa as far as I recall.
Zimbabwe is in Africa as far as I recall.
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess You literally went from people to government. Do you know of any government that isn't in, to some degree, control of the economy? 😂
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess What does leaving SA have to do with how they do economically while living there? 🤦♂
meJess · F
@ImNotHungry nothing but you are ignoring the post, which was who is on top in society. You are not on top if you fear for your life and are trying to leave.
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess No, I literally stated that ECONOMICALLY, which is what matters because that's where you see who benefits in society. Political representation without economic power is useless, you'd agree?
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess Well hold on. So can the black South Africans that fear for their lives leave SA for the united states? Will they get a sped up process to citizenship as well?
meJess · F
@ImNotHungry and now you are back to my original post, your neighbourhood, ie the US with all its citizenship and racial issues. Would agree with the poster if they mean the US only but not just black, Hispanic and all non-white.
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess But I asked you a couple of questions which you seem to be avoiding. I'm certain you'd agree that if whites in SA were struggling economically, receiving terrible healthcare, sub standard education, that would be an indication that the black government there has placed them at the bottom of society? Then the opposite should be true yeah? Which is the case. The whole point of government representation is for realities on the ground to reflect that reality would you not agree?
meJess · F
@ImNotHungry you seem very concerned to be right, so let’s ignore the whole of Asia, the Middle-East, just forget Africa and say that the problems of your country are a worldwide phenomenon. Even where both black and white persons are a tiny minority it must be as the original post suggests.
You could go to Johannesburg or Harare though.
You could go to Johannesburg or Harare though.
ImNotHungry · 36-40, M
@meJess
I'm concerned with accurate understanding of matters. Yes.
You appear incapable of following a logical flow of thought. We are not discussing the east or west Asia. We are discussing Africa, or the states in Africa which you mentioned to make your point. Are you able to defend your position on that or not?
Strawman. No one made that claim anywhere.
It seems you may have drawn a conclusion about the original post without fully understanding what it was suggesting. You responded by asserting that political power outweighs economic impact, but let me ask you this:
If the current UK government pursued policies that delivered major economic benefits to migrants while disadvantaging the local population, would the locals still feel like they were in power?
If the majority of them are still represented in Parliament, does that alone make them empowered, even as they bear the economic cost?
you seem very concerned to be right
I'm concerned with accurate understanding of matters. Yes.
let’s ignore the whole of Asia, the Middle-East
You appear incapable of following a logical flow of thought. We are not discussing the east or west Asia. We are discussing Africa, or the states in Africa which you mentioned to make your point. Are you able to defend your position on that or not?
just forget Africa and say that the problems of your country are a worldwide phenomenon.
Strawman. No one made that claim anywhere.
Even where both black and white persons are a tiny minority it must be as the original post suggests.
It seems you may have drawn a conclusion about the original post without fully understanding what it was suggesting. You responded by asserting that political power outweighs economic impact, but let me ask you this:
If the current UK government pursued policies that delivered major economic benefits to migrants while disadvantaging the local population, would the locals still feel like they were in power?
If the majority of them are still represented in Parliament, does that alone make them empowered, even as they bear the economic cost?