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The Burden of Death

I miss talking to my husband and today was real bad.

Perhaps, it is the reason why I cannot feel good about celebrating the death of someone else's husband no matter what he believed or taught.

My husband didn't die in a brutal way, although, it was still terrible and too quick and I didn't really have a lot of time to prepare myself for that.

Another woman, much younger than myself, grieves tonight with her young children.
She wasn't ready either and she has the additional burden of having to deal with the violence of the death and with the taunts of those people who think it is better that her husband is dead.

My God! we're not supposed to shoot people over these things we are supposed to try to reason with them, discuss it with them, and then walk away if we can't agree and fight for what we do believe in without violence.

No, I can't see anything good nor can I see myself being happy that somebody's husband was brutally killed.
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The man who died dismissed as deserved the murders of another woman’s husband, and another couple’s child. Probably because they were black.

I can’t imagine someone as kind as you having loved anyone that evil; so I’ve no doubt your loved one was a good man.

But I have no reason to think Kirk’s wife didn’t share his beliefs. So my sympathy is for their children. They didn’t choose their father.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@bijouxbroussard
To wish such a brutal death on anyone is cruel in my eyes.
I am not cruel because other people are cruel.
I have compassion,
because I am a compassionate person.
Whatever, the case may be I would not be happy they were brutally murdered, that to me is cruel.
And to not have compassion for the mother ,because she shared her husband's views, after just witnessing her husband be murdered right in front of her in Cold blood
seems very hard-hearted.
I would have compassion for anybody whose husband was literally murdered in front of them.
In life there is hope of debate and change- in death there is nothing left.
I cannot or will not believe that is okay to take away life.

My husband was a nice, kind, good person, but he was a conservative .
Who never preached death on anyone.
We actually had a discussion ,because I didn't know who Charlie Kirk was and I watched maybe a snippet of something he put up with my husband ,I told my husband that I did not agree with what he was saying and my husband agreed and you know what we did we stopped watching him.
That's what you do you walk away- you're not happy somebody's brutally murdered or that their loved ones had to watch it happen.
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Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@OutdoorsGuy406
I don't agree with her position, but I will not denigrate into hoping someone feels pain or have the same tragedy played out in their own lives or I would lose all my credibility claiming to be a compassionate person.
I hope we can all come to a place where we respectfully disagree with each other without spreading more hate.
OutdoorsGuy406 · 36-40, M
@Justmeraeagain Then leave it to me, I will! I used to be compassionate to a fault, but not any more. We’ve reached a breaking point! No more compassion, no more nice guy. They keep pushing hatred on us! If that’s what they want, then that’s what they deserve!
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@OutdoorsGuy406
I cannot agree with that.
If Mr Kirk does not deserve death for his views then neither does anyone who posts here no matter how much I disagree with their views.
I would become a hypocrite if I believed that.
OutdoorsGuy406 · 36-40, M
@Justmeraeagain I didn’t ask you to agree!
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@OutdoorsGuy406

If you say you dislike something and yet you agree with it in certain circumstances don't you think that sinks you some instead of elevating you?
When we lose our compassion we lose our humanity and our abilities to reason things out it becomes eye for eye/ tooth for a tooth and the whole world is bloodied with each side believing they are correct.
@Justmeraeagain Believe it or not, I don’t hate him or her. Even though he often expressed hatred for people like me and in spite of knowing a lifetime of that particular kind of hatred, I don’t hate.

I just can’t bring myself to care . That’s how I survive.
I spoke to my father about it. He agreed with me—we’re not celebrating even when someone who spread virulent hatred about us dies. But I guard my feelings regarding such people; I’ve had to.

But one thing I am relieved about, and this you may not understand—is that his life was not taken by a black person. Hatred often begets hatred. And the last thing my community needs is more hatred directed its way.
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Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@bijouxbroussard
I don't think anybody needs hatred directed towards them as much as I do not believe any community should have hatred directed towards them.
If you can argue rhetoric is an okay of a reason not to care that someone was brutally murdered then on the other side a person could argue that the attitude of that they don't care someone was killed because they were a petty criminal would be just as valid?
Both racism and criminal acts, of course, affect all communities.
We really should care- we should care that someone wasn't allowed to practice free speech we didn't like and they were mowed down because of it.
Just as we should care that a policeman did not regard the cries of someone who was struggling for life regardless of whether he was petty criminal or not.
The tragedy is in the thought that sometimes it's okay to not care that someone is murdered.
I can never go there
I won't go there.
@Justmeraeagain But do you see what I mean ? Because I can’t feel what he thinks I should feel without even knowing me this man wishes me harm ?
Nowhere will you read me saying that I’m happy that Charlie Kirk is dead.

But I’m not crying for him, either. It would’ve been like asking a Jewish person to grieve for George Lincoln Rockwell when he was assassinated.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@bijouxbroussard
I do not ask that people grieve over someone, not even my husband if they didn't like him or know him.
I would be somewhat concerned if he was brutally killed and the response was oh well or I don't care.
That might be so, but I didn't need to hear it.
And I think it shows a lack of compassion for human life in general.
I grieve the way he died it was brutal and unnecessary.
I grieve for a woman who lost her husband.
I grieve for people who had to witness this.
I grieve for his children no matter who their father was.
Because the act was so brutal.
Because, I can imagine but never quite understand how devastating something like that would be to anyone.
I cannot grieve for them personally as I did not know them nor did I watch his show or go to his talks.
But, I can grieve for human life being taking away again in such a brutal manor.
Just as I grieve any life that is taken for no other reason because someone doesn't like them or doesn't respect them enough to listen to their pleas of help.
And I grieve for that family as well -I need not know them.
I need not agree completely ,but I do know how devastating it is to lose someone and I would think the devastation would be even more when it's brutal.
And for that I grieve
@bijouxbroussard
a person could argue that the attitude of that they don't care someone was killed because they were a petty criminal would be just as valid?

That is being argued. Charlie Kirk himself made that argument.

You are my friend. I’ve always known you to be kind to me and others. I care what happens to you in your life. I respect that you are able to empathize with those with whom you disagree.

When it’s a simple disagreement, I too can reason, but with people who hate people like me, I just can’t.

I don’t know if I’m more damaged or more careful.
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
@bijouxbroussard
I know right now I need to sleep.
I tried to use logic in all of my thinking processes, but I'm too tired now to continue to think.
I'll just say I've heard some people who hate white people and wish great harm on us.
I still believe they have a right to say what they wish and have a reasonable right to expect to not be killed for stating those beliefs.
If they were killed brutally I would have the same reaction.