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England and Wales rugby teams both change coaches

What do you think? Personally, I'm glad Eddie Jones has gone because the England rugby team has been a mess since the last World Cup. My one regret is that it didn't happen sooner to give the new coach more time.

I think the sacking if Pivac is harsher because results haven't been terrible given the quality of the the players. I think he's done enough to earn the right to take the team to the WC. but the WRU didn't. I guess getting Garland back was maybe too good to turn down, given his outstanding record over a long period of time.
Pivac failed to develop a style of play and was completely inconsistent with his selections.
Yes..he came within seconds of a Grand Slam but any coach that manages to lose at home to Italy(admittingly improving) and Georgia would be on borrowed time.
England have been going backwards at a rate of knots and I think it's only the cost of paying him off that has kept Eddie in post for so long.
But we got Gatland back...hopefully with more ideas than he had with the Lions in South Africa.
Costing a small fortune apparently ,as I posted earlier.
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And autocorrect keeps changing Pivac to Privacy!
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
I think people's expectations of the coach are unrealistic. The team is only as good as the players or structure underpinning it. Throwing vast amounts of money at one man will not change matters. A coach, like any manager, can be so bad that they have a negative impact on the team, but I see no evidence of that in these cases.

Eddie Jones was colourful and great fun for most of his England career, starting with a 17 match unbeaten run after the 2015 RWC. In return for his energy and enthusiasm he was subjected to relentless and often pointless scrutiny, and even racial abuse in a couple of shameful incidents.

The job of England coach is scarcely attractive. Rob Baxter, one of the most respected and successful managers in the English premiership, takes pains to distance himself every time the role is up for discussion.

Whoever takes over is likely to seem blander and greyer in comparison.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl You are not wrong but results have been awful for England over the last three years and there is no sign of improvement. I have no issues with his personality, it's just that things were really not working.
@SunshineGirl yeah...but what an outstanding coach does is get the very best out of the players at his/ her disposal.
Gatland did that with Wales.
Which is why they they have got him back.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
I'm glad Jones has gone but they waited too long to get rid of him. Next years world Cup is a right off now.
Also there is the fact that the rfu is having to pay him £800k to go at a time we have two clubs gone bust and a bunch of players and staff out of work. That seems inappropriate to me.
SW-User
It's always been hard to like Eddie Jones. He surprisingly leaves with the best record of English coaches though.

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User It's a great record, apart from the last three years.
SW-User
@Burnley123 Yes, been terrible

 
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