Determinism [Spirituality & Religion]
I want to talk to people who believe determinism, and how you support these beliefs. I then want you to answer a few questions that I believe dismantle determinism.
22-25, M
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Determinism's main problems stem from objections leveled by quantum theory. The thing is, quantum theory generally only applies on (surprise) the quantum level. There are some macro-scale applications of the theory, of course, but I speak in general (or else we simply could not predict macro phenomena with the accuracy we do).
However, there is a hypothesis in physics that quantum effects are the result of different classical, Newtonian universes interacting with each other. If that hypothesis is true, any possible objections from quantum physics to determinism are false (and God would indeed not be playing dice with the universe).
We simply do not know how or why quantum physics operates as it does. Until we do, technically speaking, indeterminism is the order of the day, but determinism still more or less works as an account of the macro world.
However, there is a hypothesis in physics that quantum effects are the result of different classical, Newtonian universes interacting with each other. If that hypothesis is true, any possible objections from quantum physics to determinism are false (and God would indeed not be playing dice with the universe).
We simply do not know how or why quantum physics operates as it does. Until we do, technically speaking, indeterminism is the order of the day, but determinism still more or less works as an account of the macro world.
MaybeTooNarcissistic · 22-25, M
I appreciate the way you said that. Once quantum physics is understood (if it can be), would some atheists still believe what they believe once more evidence against determinism is discovered? Absolutely. Quantum physics is within our universe, in the same world we live in. Simple problems, like what someone will order in a restaurant, or what someone will say, can easily (I use easily loosely) be determined through past events in that person's life, if every event was accounted for.