Do you really think that it's our brain that produces thought?
Where do our thoughts come from? It comes from the "geist", the human spirit, the soul of mankind.
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BlueSkyKing · M
@yestestvennaya It’s probably the average age of the cells in the body is 7 to 10 years old.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/does-body-really-replace-seven-years.htm
Another point of view
"Think of an experience from your childhood. Something you remember clearly, something you can see, feel, maybe even smell, as if you were really there. After all, you really were there at the time, weren’t you? How else would you remember it?
But here is the bombshell: you weren’t there.
Not a single atom that is in your body today was there when that event took place … Matter flows from place to place and momentarily comes together to be you.
Whatever you are, therefore, you are not the stuff of which you are made.
If that doesn’t make the hair stand up on the back of your neck, read it again until it does, because it is important."
Richard Dawkins uses this quote in his TED Talk
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/does-body-really-replace-seven-years.htm
Another point of view
"Think of an experience from your childhood. Something you remember clearly, something you can see, feel, maybe even smell, as if you were really there. After all, you really were there at the time, weren’t you? How else would you remember it?
But here is the bombshell: you weren’t there.
Not a single atom that is in your body today was there when that event took place … Matter flows from place to place and momentarily comes together to be you.
Whatever you are, therefore, you are not the stuff of which you are made.
If that doesn’t make the hair stand up on the back of your neck, read it again until it does, because it is important."
Richard Dawkins uses this quote in his TED Talk
yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
@BlueSkyKing It is not. Skin cells are replaced in one to three months. White blood cells? Neutrophils last from hours to days. Monocytes about a day. Lymphocytes years, decades. Red blood cells are replaced in months. Liver cells last for year to a year and half. Lungs? Ciliated epithelial cells last from weeks to months. Alveolar type I cells last decades. Alveolar type II can last years. Kidneys? The tubule epithelial cells last from days to months. Podocytes a lifetime. Bone? Months, decades. Fibroblasts? Years, decades. Adipocytes? Up to ten years. Brain? Some neurons in the hippocampus regenerate. Neurons in the cerebral cortex do not. I told you the brain and heart are stubborn. Cardiomyocytes can last lifetime. Very negligible regeneration of some every year.
I don't know what you talk about matter or Richard Dawkins for. You can see that matter lasts for years, for a lifetime. What on earth do you think you are? Matter. You are one large matter and have been since the time you were an embryo. That pie, the pie that is you, is not getting put in the oven and baked again. You have been baked. You are whole. The pie may crumble in time, but we don't call that renewal, my friend.
I don't know what you talk about matter or Richard Dawkins for. You can see that matter lasts for years, for a lifetime. What on earth do you think you are? Matter. You are one large matter and have been since the time you were an embryo. That pie, the pie that is you, is not getting put in the oven and baked again. You have been baked. You are whole. The pie may crumble in time, but we don't call that renewal, my friend.
DocSavage · M
I see no reason as to why not.
“We are more than the sum total of our parts” after all. We have different organs that perform different functions, the combination of these can have amazing effect. Our eyes for example, have blind spots, our brains fill them in. It’s not supernatural, it’s perception.
“We are more than the sum total of our parts” after all. We have different organs that perform different functions, the combination of these can have amazing effect. Our eyes for example, have blind spots, our brains fill them in. It’s not supernatural, it’s perception.
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MoveAlong · 70-79, M
You might want to pass this along to neuroscientists. They've been trying to figure it out for years. And all along you've had the answer.
BTW has this discovery been peer reviewed in any journals that I can go to?
BTW has this discovery been peer reviewed in any journals that I can go to?
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yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
@BlueSkyKing Do you believe that all cells are replaced every seven to ten years? Why? Where did you read this?
BlueSkyKing · M
@yestestvennaya It’s not a matter of belief. All of your surface skin is dead tissue, including your hair. The lining of your digestive system is under constant wear. The body is always deteriorating and replacing.
yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
@BlueSkyKing When did skin, hair, and intestinal cells become every cell in the body? And where have you pulled this ten year figure from?
DocSavage · M
A combination of features, created by evolution, physical senses, and experiences, with the addition of abstract perception.
Incredible as it is, we’re still mortal, and we function by natural not supernatural means.
Incredible as it is, we’re still mortal, and we function by natural not supernatural means.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@DocSavage
Movement is relative to a point - any point - of reference. If you, the observer are that reference point, then everything (sun, moon, stars) does revolve around you. Creation is a theory invented by the observer which is an illusion in itself.
It does sound practical to the observer who still thinks so. To the observer who doesn't think so, it is anchored to the all powerful visible entity of the self.
People used to think the planet was stationary and the rest of the planets, the sun and the moon revolved around Earth within a huge glass dome, created by an all powerful invisible entity.
Movement is relative to a point - any point - of reference. If you, the observer are that reference point, then everything (sun, moon, stars) does revolve around you. Creation is a theory invented by the observer which is an illusion in itself.
All for some unknowable agenda.
Does that sound practical?
Does that sound practical?
It does sound practical to the observer who still thinks so. To the observer who doesn't think so, it is anchored to the all powerful visible entity of the self.
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CookieCrisp · F
idk?
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Shybutwilling2bfriends · 61-69
Charity · 61-69
No the brain is not where our thoughts come from. But the spirit / soul dwells within the brain which makes it appears as so.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Nitedoc
Ok, life-force activates the body similar to battery power activating a toy? Chi, according to eastern belief, does not originate in the body. It is similar to extraneous magnetic force moving a piece of metal. I am not suggesting that chi is the equivalent to "geist".
I used the word soul because most people can relate to that. I don't what it is but something sparks life to start in the body. Some type of energy force maybe. Some eastern cultures call it the CHI or KI. I just call it life-force.
Ok, life-force activates the body similar to battery power activating a toy? Chi, according to eastern belief, does not originate in the body. It is similar to extraneous magnetic force moving a piece of metal. I am not suggesting that chi is the equivalent to "geist".
Unquestioned · 70-79, M
I often have thoughts that I find hard to believe are mine. I do wonder where some of them come from.
swirlie · 31-35
@Unquestioned
How do you prove something exists that's otherwise invisible to the naked eye?
Your agnostic rebuttal therefore, doesn't dis-prove anything that I've stated in my post.
How do you prove something exists that's otherwise invisible to the naked eye?
Your agnostic rebuttal therefore, doesn't dis-prove anything that I've stated in my post.
Unquestioned · 70-79, M
@swirlie I'm not out to disprove you and I'm not saying you're wrong. I live with an open mind, maybe, just maybe, we will find out when our earthly body dies. I think we live in an intelligent universe, I think there is proof of that.
LeopoldBloom · M
What's your evidence for that?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom
Evidence? Do you mean something that you can perceive or detect with the senses, namely sight, hearing, touch, taste, and smell?
What's your evidence for that?
Evidence? Do you mean something that you can perceive or detect with the senses, namely sight, hearing, touch, taste, and smell?
swirlie · 31-35
No, our brain has nothing to do with our thoughts. Our brain is only the computer that links the human body to it's spirit energy. It is the universe Proper that contains all 'thought' and our spirit connects with the universe Proper, then guides our body through a process called "Spiritual Guidance".
yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
@swirlie Computers are predictable. Are brains?
swirlie · 31-35
@yestestvennaya
Are you asking me that question because you do not know the answer?
Are you asking me that question because you do not know the answer?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@yestestvennaya
Brains like yours are predictable. This is why AI is here to run your world.
Computers are predictable. Are brains?
Brains like yours are predictable. This is why AI is here to run your world.
yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
The Geist is dead where there is no brain.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@yestestvennaya
Your definition of the geist is based on its connection to the body. The word "geist" has a meaning outside the paradigm of material science.
The Geist is dead where there is no brain.
Your definition of the geist is based on its connection to the body. The word "geist" has a meaning outside the paradigm of material science.
yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
@sree251 If we were to all die tomorrow, our Geist would go unobserved. The things that we think we can sense become nothing. A dead body is dead perception, unless you believe in ghosts or the afterlife. And then it is muted and withdrawn from the world. The dead care only about sentiment and possession.
What you think is the Geist is not the Geist. Geist is culture as well as spirit. It is knowledge. Do trees and beasts have culture? What do they care about your Geist? They have their own. A better one. Without man, the world is stripped of aesthetics. Stripped of feeling and thought. Art becomes nothing. A faraway myth. It is stripped to nature. Nature has no time for Hegel.
What you think is the Geist is not the Geist. Geist is culture as well as spirit. It is knowledge. Do trees and beasts have culture? What do they care about your Geist? They have their own. A better one. Without man, the world is stripped of aesthetics. Stripped of feeling and thought. Art becomes nothing. A faraway myth. It is stripped to nature. Nature has no time for Hegel.