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BlueSkyKing · M
The modern tarot deck has been traced back to 15th-century Italy and a trick-taking game called "triumphs" (tarots in French; Decker 1996). The traditional tarot deck consists of two sets of cards, one having 22 pictures (the major arcana), such as the Fool, the Devil, Temperance, the Hermit, the Sun, the Lovers, the Hanged Man, and Death. The other set (the minor arcana) has 56 cards with kings (or lords), queens (or ladies), knights, and knaves (pages or servants) of sticks (or wands, cudgels or batons) , swords, cups and coins.
There are many different tarot decks used in cartomancy. The meanings of the figures and numbers on tarot cards vary greatly among tarot readers and advocates, many of whom find connections between tarot and cabala, astrology, I Ching, ancient Egypt, and various other occult and mystical notions.
The oldest playing cards date back to 10th-century China, but the four suits of tarot and modern playing cards probably originated with a 14th-century Muslim deck (Decker). According to de Givry, in the modern 52-card deck of ordinary playing cards, sticks or wands = clubs (and announce news); swords = spades (and presage unhappiness and death); cups = hearts (and presage happiness); coins = diamonds (and presage money). According to Ronald Decker, the Muslim sticks represented polo sticks. As Europeans were not yet familiar with polo, they changed the suit of sticks to that of wands, cudgels, or batons.
Tarot cards are usually read by a fortune-teller, though in these days of New Age Enterprise, anyone can buy a deck with instructions on how to discover your real self and actualize your true potential. Why anyone's fate would be mysteriously contained in playing cards is a mystery; although, sympathetic magic seems to play a role.
There is a romantic irresistibility to the notion of shuffling the cards and casting one's fate, to putting one's cards on the table for all to see, to drawing into the unknown, to having one's life laid out and explained by strangers who have the gift of clairvoyance, to gamble on the future, and so on. The idea of staring at a picture card and letting it reveal the future or mirror the soul is not one that austere critics are likely to find tantalizing, but the thought of such visionary mysticism obviously has its attraction. Centuries of scientific advancement and learning have not diminished the popularity of occult guidance systems such as the tarot, Ouija boards, astrology, I Ching, palmistry, iridology, reflexology, ink blots, graphology, enneagrams, crystal balls, tea leaves, and the like.
https://skepdic.com/tarot.html
There are many different tarot decks used in cartomancy. The meanings of the figures and numbers on tarot cards vary greatly among tarot readers and advocates, many of whom find connections between tarot and cabala, astrology, I Ching, ancient Egypt, and various other occult and mystical notions.
The oldest playing cards date back to 10th-century China, but the four suits of tarot and modern playing cards probably originated with a 14th-century Muslim deck (Decker). According to de Givry, in the modern 52-card deck of ordinary playing cards, sticks or wands = clubs (and announce news); swords = spades (and presage unhappiness and death); cups = hearts (and presage happiness); coins = diamonds (and presage money). According to Ronald Decker, the Muslim sticks represented polo sticks. As Europeans were not yet familiar with polo, they changed the suit of sticks to that of wands, cudgels, or batons.
Tarot cards are usually read by a fortune-teller, though in these days of New Age Enterprise, anyone can buy a deck with instructions on how to discover your real self and actualize your true potential. Why anyone's fate would be mysteriously contained in playing cards is a mystery; although, sympathetic magic seems to play a role.
There is a romantic irresistibility to the notion of shuffling the cards and casting one's fate, to putting one's cards on the table for all to see, to drawing into the unknown, to having one's life laid out and explained by strangers who have the gift of clairvoyance, to gamble on the future, and so on. The idea of staring at a picture card and letting it reveal the future or mirror the soul is not one that austere critics are likely to find tantalizing, but the thought of such visionary mysticism obviously has its attraction. Centuries of scientific advancement and learning have not diminished the popularity of occult guidance systems such as the tarot, Ouija boards, astrology, I Ching, palmistry, iridology, reflexology, ink blots, graphology, enneagrams, crystal balls, tea leaves, and the like.
https://skepdic.com/tarot.html
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@BlueSkyKing bruh...I also don't believe in tarot and astrology, but...read the room.
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
@basilfawlty89 he's always droning on about something. It's like he has absolutely no personality. I don't believe that stuff either but like give it a rest lol
BlueSkyKing · M
@basilfawlty89 You know my adage. If it’s not science, it’s superstition. The thing is people accept this dreck without question. My generation said to question everything. Look behind the curtain. Yes, I’ll attack the subject and not the person. It isn’t a harmless belief and needs to be exposed.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@BlueSkyKing no, bs. This woman has a medical condition and your key takeaway is "muh skepdik amd enlightened aThEisM".
Do you lack basic empathy?
Do you lack basic empathy?
BlueSkyKing · M
@basilfawlty89 The best way to treat such a condition is to be cheap. Buy mass produce paranormal playing cards and perform spell casting. All having documentation of real effectiveness.
angoranimi · 26-30, F
@BlueSkyKing I'm aware that mass produced tarot cards that cost 1 cent a piece to print don't have magical powers, I'm actually a scientist myself, it's more just the sentiment behind it. I like to take it as a positive sign. Don't have much to lose 🤷🏼♀️
BlueSkyKing · M
@angoranimi My adage is: If it’s not science, it’s superstition. There is no middle ground. Science has a history of working. I abhor magical thinking and claims.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@basilfawlty89 He's literally incapable of reading the room. He's made debunking stuff his entire personality.
BlueSkyKing · M
@LordShadowfire Bring out the evidence warehouse you have for god and fill it with your pseudoscience evidence.
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angoranimi · 26-30, F
@BlueSkyKing don't worry, I'm working hard on the science part of things too lol trust me. Like I said I'm a medical scientist and I'm working closely with the pulmonary and rheumataric specialists to make sure every appropriate avenue of testing and potential treatment options are explored ASAP as we come up with the ideas. I make sure my case is actively being figured out and that I'm doing all the best things/meds I possibly can for my condition because it's my life on the line and I'm clearly running out of time. I'm a patient that's able to take the lead in my own case, rather than one who doesn't understand what's going on