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Why Do Some Claim This World Came To Being By Evolution And Blame God For Its Troubles?

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It doesn't make sense. Some claim that God doesn't live and yet, they blame Him for human sufferings all over the world. They also claim that human suffering is wrong and it's immoral to let it go on. How do they know what is right and what is wrong without a basis to go by?


On these ten commandments hang the laws of men. God's commandments are the basis for what is right and what is wrong, for what is moral and for what is Immoral. Without them, that knowledge would be lost.

30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [d]This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Mark 12:30 & 31

If we had follow these two commandments to the letter, this would indeed to be a perfect world to live in. Since this is not the case, we have a greater hope for a new heavens and a new earth to live in through Jesus Christ by His Holy Spirit. God Himself will be our God and we will be His beloved children. This is what those, who are being saved, look forward to.
LadyGrace · Best Comment
As usual, this is a brilliant post. This is just beautiful writing!

[quote]Some claim that God doesn't live and yet, they blame Him for human sufferings all over the world.[/quote]

Yes, instead of blaming the real evil culprit, Satan! Satan and sin destroy this world, as is obvious.

[quote]How do they know what is right and what is wrong without a basis to go by?[/quote]

ExACTLY!! Great point! If there are questions about life and God, why not read the Bible, see what God has to say, and [u]then[/u] make an informed decision? You know, many a person has gone to a motel room, was bored, so they read the provided Gideon Bible, and ended up accepting Jesus as Savior.


Richard65 · M
First of all, skeptics don't blame God, that's a straw man argument. They say that to believers as a simple argument against the existence of God (i.e: if God exists why does He allow fatal childhood cancer?)

Second, if we relied wholly on the Commandments to guide our morals and tell us what's right and wrong, then everyone who existed in the world before the Commandments would have been raping and murdering and robbing one another constantly. But they didn't. Societies and communities existed in peace and harmony, even in countries like China who didn't have an Abrahamic religion, but knew not to kill or rape and knew how to form government and that people accused of a crime deserved a trial and didn't punish unjustly. How do you explain people having good morals who had no idea about the existence of God?
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Graylight It's futile.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JimboSaturn @Graylight [quote]So boring. Dozens of people have explained that concept to you hundreds of times. Your defensivelessness is painfully obvious[/quote]

Really? Then why, pray tell, have any of them proven what they claim is true?
Graylight · 51-55, F
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AbbySvenz · F
Because “god” is the source of many of these troubles, maybe? Well, His fan club, anyway 🤔

Crusades?
Inquisition?
([i]Nobody[/i] expects the Spanish Inquisition!)
The French Wars of Religion?
The English Civil War?
The Greek War of Independence?
AbbySvenz · F
Deuteronomy 20:17
@GodSpeed63
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
He rejected them, but didn’t do anything to stop them either. Did he ?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz [quote]Deuteronomy 20:17[/quote]

John 3:16, Mark 12:30 & 31, John 15:12 &13, and 1 Corinthians 13.
They dont believe in God....... but, when stuff goes wrong, he still makes a great scapegoat 🙄
The outspoken unbeliever isn't reacting to a god they don't believe exists, they are reacting to a sort of theocratic insistence, especially when morally, socially or politically incentivized. In occidental cultures this objection is predicated upon, not the god of the theists in question but rather the misrepresentation of that god by the theists. Were the Bible not so poorly represented by socio-politically motivated hypocrites they would object to it no more than they would any secular or even religious texts.

The solution for a better understanding between the two ideologies would be for them to more carefully examine the opposing ideology, theology, and sociopolitical motivation. There needn't be any opposition if that could successfully be implemented simply because it isn't the place of the theist to impose their ideology either socially or politically.

I have absolute faith in Jehovah God, but I have very little faith in mankind. Aside from the ideological difference inherent in my belief paradigm, that is, our difference of opinion regarding the existence of Jehovah God, the atheists are in the right because their objection is to the very real and concrete effects of apostasy in their world, and their lives.

Put simply the atheist see God through the misrepresentation of ignorant apostate Christianity. No wonder they reject the God concept.
DocSavage · M
No one says evolution is the start or everything. Evolution began when life started reproducing. The biological effect is way too obvious for even Ken Ham to deny.
As for morality. Civilizations existed before Moe came down the mountain with a couple of tablets. Society already had the basis of law when he left Egypt. And you might notice those stones don’t bring up slavery. Rape, and several other injustices of the times.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage [quote]Well, chuckles, it obviously started here on Earth. We’re the result of it. Until we make contact with other worlds we won’t know where else it might have taken root.[/quote]

In other words, you don't know, Doc. Like His Word says, trading the Truth for a lie.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Where did you get that idea ? Abiogenesis happened here on Earth, what part of that didn’t you understand ? It’s possible it may or has happened elsewhere, if the conditions are suitable. But since we can’t interact with other planets, we can’t tell.
As I thought, you have no clue to what you’re talking about. Not surprising as you follow Ken Ham. Another world class idiot.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
If you want to ask about abiogenesis, look up Kent Hovind videos. He gets it wrong too. Should be right up your alley.
Gumba1000 · M
I blame two branches of thinking. You have those type of Christians that say "God has a plan for all of us". But if that were true, we're all just puppets in an already written play. There's no sense in that. Why would the devil be a threat if we are all just playing parts already written? Then there's those that remember that God gave us free will to do as we please. To choose the wrong apples from the tree in Eden. Which makes more sense. If we all have free will then God doesn't plan our life and doesn't make us play parts in an already written story. If thud is true then bad things can and will happen, but it is down to us for the blame, or just the nature of our existence.
@HoraceGreenley The Dawkins South Park meme is funny as hell, but I could conclude the opposite for the same reason.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@AkioTsukino Richard Dawkins?
Human1000 · M
@AkioTsukino @HoraceGreenley I like Dawkins because he's so unabashed, but Hitchens is even better. Sam Harris likes to say he's a bit different.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@SW-User and stupid
They don't blame God. They blame people doing destructive things in the name of God.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@robingoodfellow Precisely
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@robingoodfellow @JimboSaturn [quote]They don't blame God. They blame people doing destructive things in the name of God[/quote]

So, how do you see God as?
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@GodSpeed63 I don't understand you question. I don't see God as anything, well I suppose I see him as an invention .
That's not a thing.
WalterF · 70-79, M
graphite · 61-69, M
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Human1000 · M
No, we don't, silly boy. You've confused arguments against God's existence with belief in God.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Human1000 [quote]No, we don't, silly boy.[/quote]

Obviously you didn't watch the videos, silly boy.
Human1000 · M
@GodSpeed63 Ah yes, the "the videos." And from Joe Rogan no less. 😵

 
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