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Why Do Some Claim This World Came To Being By Evolution And Blame God For Its Troubles?

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It doesn't make sense. Some claim that God doesn't live and yet, they blame Him for human sufferings all over the world. They also claim that human suffering is wrong and it's immoral to let it go on. How do they know what is right and what is wrong without a basis to go by?


On these ten commandments hang the laws of men. God's commandments are the basis for what is right and what is wrong, for what is moral and for what is Immoral. Without them, that knowledge would be lost.

30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [d]This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Mark 12:30 & 31

If we had follow these two commandments to the letter, this would indeed to be a perfect world to live in. Since this is not the case, we have a greater hope for a new heavens and a new earth to live in through Jesus Christ by His Holy Spirit. God Himself will be our God and we will be His beloved children. This is what those, who are being saved, look forward to.
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Richard65 · M
First of all, skeptics don't blame God, that's a straw man argument. They say that to believers as a simple argument against the existence of God (i.e: if God exists why does He allow fatal childhood cancer?)

Second, if we relied wholly on the Commandments to guide our morals and tell us what's right and wrong, then everyone who existed in the world before the Commandments would have been raping and murdering and robbing one another constantly. But they didn't. Societies and communities existed in peace and harmony, even in countries like China who didn't have an Abrahamic religion, but knew not to kill or rape and knew how to form government and that people accused of a crime deserved a trial and didn't punish unjustly. How do you explain people having good morals who had no idea about the existence of God?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Richard65 Yep as we created God in our image, the same for our moral code. Except not as well.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Richard65
First of all, skeptics don't blame God, that's a straw man argument.

I guess you didn't watch the videos.
Richard65 · M
@GodSpeed63 I did watch it, but you're an example of a typical Christian who wholly misunderstands the point. These people are saying to you and other Christians that IF God exists, then why would he allow these terrible things to happen? They are playing Devil's Advocate (look that up). Do you think Stephen Fry believes in God?? He absolutely doesn't, he's just debating your belief in such an idea by pretending he does for the sake of the argument.

That's the problem with believers. It's hard to debate with you when you completely fail to understand the stance of the person arguing with you.

"Meaning of devil's advocate in English

someone who pretends, in an argument or discussion, to be against an idea or plan that a lot of people support, in order to make people discuss and consider it in more detail: I don't really believe all that - I was just playing devil's advocate."
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Richard65
These people are saying to you and other Christians that IF God exists, then why would he allow these terrible things to happen?

The big question is: why did we allow these terrible things to happen? God created everything perfect and we had to go and mess it up.

They are playing Devil's Advocate (look that up)

You got that right.

Do you think Stephen Fry believes in God?? He absolutely doesn't,

What Stephen Fry believes and what already has been established by God, Himself, as the Truth are two different things. God still lives as His testimony in His Word has declared.
Richard65 · M
@GodSpeed63 none of those were the main reason for your post, you've actually changed the focus completely and are now asking different questions. You're purposefully complicating the debate because I pointed out the fundamental error of your original post.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Richard65 That's his M.O.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Richard65 @JimboSaturn
I pointed out the fundamental error of your original post.

And what was that?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@GodSpeed63 scroll up and read, do you're own thinking.
Richard65 · M
@GodSpeed63 you asked why people say they don't believe in God, yet blame Him for human suffering. I pointed out that they don't believe in God and that they're simply playing devil's advocate.

I'm pretty astounded that a man of your mature age struggles to understand that obvious fact and has to have it explained to him.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Richard65
you asked why people say they don't believe in God, yet blame Him for human suffering. I pointed out that they don't believe in God and that they're simply playing devil's advocate.

You really don't understand what you just said, do you.
Richard65 · M
@GodSpeed63 that's rich, coming from you.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@GodSpeed63 Mythologize a leader, believe - because you've been told - that you are inherently wrong but he alone can fix it. Leaves you on your own for the really hard work and if you don't perform well enough, pretends like he never knew you, much less created you.

Sounds awfully familiar. Maybe it's just the the extreme conservatives have a type.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Graylight
Mythologize a leader, believe

Prove that God is a myth if that's what you really believe. From where you're standing, either God lives or He doesn't, which is it? I didn't learn the Truth from man but from God.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@GodSpeed63 I need not prove a negative or that which hasn't yet been proven.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Graylight
I need not prove a negative or that which hasn't yet been proven.

That only tells me that you have nothing and don't really know whether God is real or not. You're just whistling in the wind.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@GodSpeed63 So boring. Dozens of people have explained that concept to you hundreds of times. Your defensivelessness is painfully obvious
Graylight · 51-55, F
@JimboSaturn Hundreds.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Graylight It's futile.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JimboSaturn @Graylight
So boring. Dozens of people have explained that concept to you hundreds of times. Your defensivelessness is painfully obvious

Really? Then why, pray tell, have any of them proven what they claim is true?
Graylight · 51-55, F