First off I looked at this guys credentials and I don’t think he is a scientist. His phd is in mechanical engineering which is very impressive. But he is still not a scientist. He has written lots of papers about creationism but I doubt any of them passed the peer review standard. Science is about finding natural explanations for phenomena with a natural mechanism. Supernatural explanations are not scientific.
Technically the Big Bang does not describe how the universe ‘began to exist’. The Big Bang describes how a singularity, rapidly expanded and produced everything in the universe.
Actually, no one has an explanation for how the universe began...or why, for that matter. Except in God's Word. Where did the singularity come from? What caused it? The atheists answer is: ‘We don’t know what caused the universe, and that’s OK’… As if somehow, that explains it. This proves, by their own admission, some have a belief about the world that has no basis in science. It also fails to acknowledge that science cannot, by definition, explain the origin of the universe.
Science relies on the laws of physics, chemistry and other natural laws in order to operate. But these laws were only created after the universe began to exist.
You literally just described yourself. You are well known to dodge questions, change the subject, double talk, and accuse non-theists of what you yourself do. And that is just describing yourself.
Then you have the violent ones that bomb people, attack people, shoot up buildings, threaten people, admit to planning insurrections to create a Christian theocracy.
These are the Christian nationalists, the Trump supporters, the Republicans that stand for family values while molesting their own children. The ones like Greg Locke that want to bring back book burning while threatening to knock a guy's teeth out for suggesting he wear a mask. The Cruz family who are Seven Mountains Dominionists who's stated goal is to overthrow the government and replace it with old testament law. Rick Wiles who is an anti-semite that supports Israel because he needs Israel to exist for his Apocalypse to take place and for Jesus to kill off the people he hates.
You can not no-true-scotsman every single violent believer as anyone can self identity as one. The Abrahamic religions are not closed off like that.
As Jesus told you, check the beam in your own eye first and police your own people and stop worrying about the non-believers.
You keep making the claim that your imaginary friend ("yahweh") is real yet you've never presented a single shred of evidence to support that, you just keep repeating the same old BS like broken record..
@GodSpeed63 Because I can’t make any sense out of what you post. You just claimed that Jesus wants to prove me correct in my assessment that there is no god, is that what you meant to say?
And you're not like that so you'll have no problem giving a straight answer to a straight question:
You profess to value true science and the hallmark of true science is that it can be used to make novel predictions which are later verified. Evolution science has been used to make verified predictions many times. Radiometric dating showing an ancient Earth is routinely used by Big Oil to predict where oil and coal can be found. So if creation science is true science....what novel predictions has it made which have been verified? That is to say, what previously unknown or undiscovered object, animal or phenomenon has been predicted using creationism and not merely accommodated by creationism after its discovery?
If these skeptics were good scientists, they would have open minds about science and what it is telling them
Hypothetically, is there any evidence which could convince you that evolution has occurred? Not that god isn't real or Jesus isn't real but simply that the diversity of life on this planet is a result of evolution? Yes or no?
You must directly and honestly answer both these questions or be guilty of dodging and avoiding. If it looks like you've missed them, don't worry: i'll remind you.
lol You're avoiding again, Godspeed. Just what you accused us of. You can praise Yahweh all day long but at heart you're a prideful, dishonest person and you continue to prove it. Enjoy your evening.
How can one be a biologist or a geologist and not accept evolution?
The scientific method has a clear consistent steps. Using evidence that’s detectable, measurable, and can be tested repeatedly. What qualifies as evidence for "true science"?
Are your results published for peer review?
What are the steps for your "true science"?
Where does falsification have a role?
Scientists have a 95% threshold before making claims. What is the goal of true science?
Link a list where true science has lead to new inventions and medical improvements.
Evolution is one of the bases of genetic science, a science that produces indisputable results. If evolution weren’t a fact modern genetic science wouldn’t work. Doubting the theory of evolution is like denying circuit theory. I don’t expect you to understand why but your statement above about evolution clearly indicates you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Evolution is one of the bases of genetic science, a science that produces indisputable results. If evolution weren’t a fact modern genetic science wouldn’t work.
They are linked, but the notion that the genes contain trait-based information which is inherited by progeny is not dependent upon a specific mechanism for how the information so encoded changes.
Doubting the theory of evolution is like denying circuit theory.
No.
Kirchhoff's laws are based upon two pillars of classical mechanics:
• conservation of charge • conservation of energy
which both translate well into the relativistic & quantum realms.
Evolution is an emergent behavior of more complex systems.
@SomeMichGuy no, you are almost completely wrong. Endogenous retroviruses prove that humans and chimps had a common ancestor that was neither human nor chimp. If this finding is wrong, modern genetic science is wrong and things like those pesky GMOs are impossible. Since we see them in grocery stores, they are likely very possible.
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i agree that a "good scientist" wouldn't engage such religious pseudo-science. especially when believers who don't know the definition of the word 'science' flame-bait to try and stir the pot. no need to be lured into such a futile debate/strawman's argument. a good scientist doesn't care what you, or anyone else, believes.
Dear GodSpeed63, a simple schoolchild's primer on what actually constitutes the scientific method would reveal to you the fallacy of your accusations. I doubt though that you have any inclination to find and refer to any such thing.
You prefer instead to accuse others, of them having "no excuse".
I have already given you Proverbs 18.13, here is another verse, this time from the NT:-
...with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again....(St Matthew, 7.2)
The Gospel is the Good News. Forgiveness, mercy, love, Grace. Be careful that in the end it is not you who stands with no excuse.
Our whole universe was in a hot, dense state Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started, wait The earth began to cool, the autotrophs began to drool Neanderthals developed tools We built a wall (we built the pyramids) Math, science, history, unraveling the mysteries That all started with the big bang! Hey! 🎶
The one thing science can't measure or know, expands beyond us, time, the universe, and comes from God...the Creator of all things visible and invisible, eons ago. It fails miserably at putting God in a box.
Actually the Bible has a crucial role in science. As a reporter of events. The guiding Star of Jesus birth may well fit with records of a Comet. The Flood of Noah may well reference a massive Tsunami following the volcanic eruption that took out the Minoan Empire. So "Bible Science" can indeed be useful to real scientists.😷
@Tariki Which is kind of my point. The bible record prompted a dig that found a flood debris layer extending miles inland in the Eastern Mediteranian. Now considering most human habitation would have been close to the sea or Estuaries the idea of a great dieing of people, with fishermen at sea amongst the survivors is quite plausble.😷
@redredred Nobody is perfect. I really dont believe Noah was 900 years old either. But we are talking about real events forming the basis of myth or "miracles"For example, everyone has heard of the miracle of the loaves and fishes feeding a multitude. A little digging in the Bible recounts several of these events. All with differing numbers of fish, loaves and people assembled. Now was this a regular event? Or supposedly the one time, but grew in the telling?😷
It DOES have collected records of "how we interacted with God" from the point of view of (primarily) the Jews, Scripture, proper. Then, in the New Testament, it continues with collected records based upon Jesus, then His disciples + Paul.
Nowhere does it say, "The Book of Science from God", etc.
You are stretching the text AND reading it in an anachronistic fashion.
2) Actually, the Bible supports a fundamental observation of Darwin, which is that, if you look at a historical arrangement of living things, you see a "progression of forms".
Both of the creation stories--the creatio ex nihilo which was read by the Apollo astronauts, as well as the (probably Mesopotamian) story of creation from mud--show an increasing complexity of forms.
If they record a revelation to a non-scientific guy like Moses around 1850 BC/BCE, it is interesting that this is preserved.
3) You should look at the Wikipedia article about "consilience". It is a newer term, but it means that various, independent lines of research converge to the same answer.
Evolution is based upon consilience.
The age of the Universe and global warming are other examples.
@GodSpeed63 The "rest". What rest? Does " the rest" end with the Torah. Or with the NT. Or with the Koran, the "seal of the Prophets." And if simply with the Christian Canon, which one? Roman Catholic, Protestant or one of the others? And what interpretation of them?
That "light" and "darkness" have one source is a commonplace in our world's Faith Traditions. That "God" "created" the "heavens" and the "earth" actually explains nothing. "Believing" it guarantees nothing. Each word in inverted commas is subject to virtually infinite understanding.
You are back where you started.
Dogen:- Therefore, if there are fish that would swim or birds that would fly only after investigating the entire ocean or sky, they would find neither path nor place. When we make this very place our own, our practice becomes the actualization of reality
The rest of the scriptures in the Word of God (Holy Bible); From Genesis to Revelation, He wrote it through holy men of their time. God loves working with His creation.
@GodSpeed63 No , you claim to know the truth. If you’re the source, that’s more than enough of an excuse not to believe. Must be your sparkling personality.
I know before the time of heart surgeries and medication to prevent your limbs from falling off, man those were the days. I miss no medical care available and only God miracles everywheres. Soooo great, I always wanted to go out like that.
@SatanBurger Hey, if you were looking to revive medieval times, there's no need to seek out a caliphate! Haven't you heard? Just join a Fundanentalist Christian sect near you!
There is a reason why they support science blindly them because back in early days, some bad rulers wanted these people to do things which they liked irrespective of logic. At that time, science came for their rescue.
But Now, instead of finding logic behind the things, they got enslaved by another popular ruler - That ruler is science.
He who answers a matter before he hears it, It is folly and shame to him.
Virtually all Bible based Christians, AKA Fundamentalists, would do well to reflect upon those words. This before indulging in further folly and shame.
