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Which is a superior foundation for morality: Christianity or Secular Humanism? [Spirituality & Religion]

While i think that Christianity has a number of good moral positions it also has some pretty wretched stuff which is (at least notionally) based on what a god wants.
On the other hand, secular humanism holds as it's metric the idea of human flourishing and reduction of harm. It can encompass absolutely every moral virtue claimed by Christianity but is beholden to none of the harmful, punitive dictates that come from religious dogma.

Therefor i say that Secular humanism has the superior foundation for a system of morality.
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I’m gonna say IMO Christianity only bc I don’t think I could rely on secular humanism during a zombie apocalypse.
Carazaa · F
@DecafD Smart!😂
@DecafD Some claimed that after Jesus was crucified, graves throughout Jerusalem opened and the dead walked. This must’ve been the first case of mass zombies.
DocSavage · M
@DecafD
A bullet in their brain will get you farther than a bible.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@BlueSkyKing That is mentioned in the Bible, but only in Matthew. The other three gospel authors didn't feel it was worth mentioning.
@DocSavage I was referring to the living and not the dead during the zombie apocalypse
DocSavage · M
@DecafD
Still a gun, would be more useful than a bible to the living
@DocSavage hahah I agree with both. The gun for the dead and a bible for the living so we don’t have to treat the living like the dead
Carazaa · F
@DecafD Smart 😂
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@DecafD And if someone does not want to be forced to become a Christian?
@LordShadowfire well of course no one can force that. I think we’re getting off topic. If one can maintain secular humanism during the apocalypse then no problem, but my response is I don’t think we could rely on that since in that situation morality seems to be the first thing to go.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@DecafD And I would respectfully disagree. Most of what we think of as morals actually stems from a recognized need to survive as a species when humans first started gathering together. "Don't kill other humans", "don't steal from other humans", "don't have sex with the partners of other humans", and so forth, were all rules that were designed to make it easier to live in a community. And living in a community was considered necessary when there were dire wolves and sabertooth cats roaming the countryside. As a result, you and I are descended from people who literally made a conscious decision to teach those rules as if they were divine law. That's why they just feel right to us.
room101 · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire Not so sure about the "don't have sex with the partners of other humans" bit.

Surely one of the main survival imperatives is to reproduce. Consequently, I would have thought that the dictum would have been:

"Shag whomever you want to shag."
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
@room101 Shagging the partner of another human is a good way to get yourself killed, however. Therefore, while it might lead to an increased number of children, you yourself run the risk of dying painfully.
room101 · 51-55, M
@LordShadowfire It's a good way to get yourself killed because our societies have deemed "extra-marital relations" as something to be avoided. To be frowned upon.

If, on the other hand, our societies had evolved along the lines of the survival imperatives that you suggested........................shag whomever you want to shag would have been a non-issue. Because, everybody would be doing it. In fact, one could argue that the world would be a far more pleasant place because there would be no jealousy etc.