Should we take the miracle of the loaves and fishes seriously? [Spirituality & Religion]
Quite apart from the supernatural element, are we to believe that thousands of people were following Jesus around for days and none of them brought food?🤔 I guess they brought water though because there's no miracle of the water bottles.
If Jesus were really omnipotent, he could've created water bottles.
Seriously, though, as it was explained to me by a Jesuit priest, the miracle wasn't in multiplying loaves and fishes. The good act was that Jesus convinced those with some to share with those who had none regardless of culture or status. Not an easy thing to do even today in the culture of "I got mine."
@canusernamebemyusername I always have. People get so furious and worked up about the Bible. If you take it as infallible, great. If you think it's trash, fine. Haven't we waged enough war over it?
Yeah i get that. But i respect the people who are willing to engage thoughtfully instead of just getting defensive. I mean, no one is forcing them to reply here lol
Yes because people took them in! And yes it was a miracle just like he does today multiplying our money if we put him first! I have seen so many money miracles! I dare not give him my first tenth! And no I’m not scared I just take his promises serious! God knows we need our food and we love our money! So he challenges us to give, and he rewards us! There I witness because I want people to understand that God is a rewarded of those who love him!
Apparently you don’t have an idea of the awe that someone would be in seeing the sick be healed instantly and perfectly, demons cast out, and teaching of wisdom beyond the mind of man
@Pikachu your idea of realistic isn’t very keen, and every doubt you raise is unreasonable, but if you’re determined to believe something is false, your mind finds a way for you
@th3r0n If there were rivers - dude - then that means grasses and reeds. Vegetation. Fish, amphibians. Mammals that came to drink. There would have been plenty of food.
It's not that complicated. 1. People go somewhere intending to listen and go home. Instead they keep following. It's pretty clear from the context of the four gospels that this happened on multiple occasions - people following him round so that to get away he had to cross the lake. 2. People didn't drive in those days, so wherever you walked you knew where the water sources were. That was just normal. And perhaps Jesus was sufficiently intelligent to not walk into a place where 5000 plus people following who were ill-prepared would perish for lack of water.
So the people were sufficiently intelligent to not follow Jesus into places where there wasn't water but not sufficiently intelligent to say "Oh dang, looks like we're actually going to be out here for a minute. Go back and get some food".
People were used to fasting for religious purposes or mourning - it's not particularly surprising that they kept following if they felt this was life changing. 3 days without food isn't much, goodness. Jesus was being considerate in case there were a few who had overdone it. You occasionally find some good dilemmas. This is not one of those.
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Interacting with me is clearly an unpleasant experience for you and evidently agitates you significantly. Perhaps you should consider just ignoring me and carry on fantasizing about meeting me face to face.🤷♀️
i'd like to imagine it was simply because jesus took them from that one kid that did pack a lunch but nobody else wanted to eat the lil kids lunch so they all passed up on it.