Quite apart from the argument about whether the God of Abraham exists, what argument would you make that he is worthy of love and worship? [Spirituality & Religion]

@canusernamebemyusername

Well said.
And yeah, Jesus does seems to be rather different from god as we know him in the OT.
I'm in favour of some of the Gnostic gospels which say that there was the OT god who was an evil tyrant and then a more loving NT god.

@daydeeo

Is that your argument? (not being dismissive, genuinely asking)

@Pikachu You've she'd why I consider the His of Abraham to be worthy of love and worship.
I believe in the Trinity, that the Son and the Father are one.
Jesus confirmed this, saying "I and my Father are one", and "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father".
As God, I consider Jesus worthy of love and worship. As He and His Father are one, the Father is also worthy of love and worship.

@daydeeo

Yes i thought that might be your point.
But as you say, the only thing that quote actually says is that if you know one then you know the other.

But that goes both ways.
That means that all the things god does in the old testament count as well.
I'm going to assume you've read the OT as well as the NT so you know how brutal, vengeful and jealous god can be.

So if you've got a man who is kind and understanding to people sometimes but horrifyingly violent to people [i]most[/i] of the time...is that man worthy of love and respect?

Because that's what you're dealing with here.
You've got Jesus who has a few nice things to say and is generally more forgiving to people who don't like him...and then you've got OT who drowned the world, murders every firstborn son in Egypt with the [i]stated[/i] purpose of showing off his power and ordering his people to slaughter every man, woman, child and animal upon concurring the enemy.
To name only a few examples.

So when examining the fullness of the recorded character of god, what makes that being worthy of love and worship?

Or are you going with the battered wife syndrome argument of "I know he beats me but it's my fault and sometimes he can be really sweet"?

@bravo55

lol that one always makes me laugh

@bravo55 @Pikachu [quote]that one always makes me laugh[/quote]

And you guys call us ignorant. You children should be playing with your toys and not trying to make stupid comments here.

@SW-User

I hear ya.

@Emosaur [quote]Special pleading fallacy.[/quote]

You asked and I answered, so, what's your problem?

@GodSpeed63

Speaking of killing unborn children, were you going to get back to this thread?

https://similarworlds.com/19-Spirituality-Religion/3396672-Instructions-for-abortion-from-the-Bible?com_id=40342843&ncom_id=40343353

I'm curious about your answer to the question i asked you there.