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What Is Faith To You? [Spirituality & Religion]

Skeptics don't believe in faith, yet, they use it every day of their life.

Hebrews 11 says, By Faith We Understand

1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. 3By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. 4By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks. 5By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. 7By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
8By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; 10for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11By faith Sarah herself also received strength to conceive seed, and she bore a child when she was past the age, because she judged Him faithful who had promised. 12Therefore from one man, and him as good as dead, were born as many as the stars of the sky in multitude—innumerable as the sand which is by the seashore. 13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. 15And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them. 17By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18of whom it was said, “In Isaac your seed shall be called,” 19concluding that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead, from which he also received him in a figurative sense. 20By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
21By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of the sons of Joseph, and worshiped, leaning on the top of his staff. 22By faith Joseph, when he was dying, made mention of the departure of the children of Israel, and gave instructions concerning his bones. 23By faith Moses, when he was born, was hidden three months by his parents, because they saw he was a beautiful child; and they were not afraid of the king’s command.
24By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, 25choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward.
27By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured as seeing Him who is invisible. 28By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
29By faith they passed through the Red Sea as by dry land, whereas the Egyptians, attempting to do so, were drowned. 30By faith the walls of Jericho fell down after they were encircled for seven days. 31By faith the harlot Rahab did not perish with those who did not believe, when she had received the spies with peace. 32And what more shall I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon and Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David and Samuel and the prophets: 33who through faith subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became valiant in battle, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. 35Women received their dead raised to life again. Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. 39And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.

This is what it means to me.
Carazaa · F Best Comment
100,000 Christians are killed yearly for their faith, 300 a day. We don't die for nothing. We die for the one who saved us, and loved us unto death! He answers our prayers, and gives us so much love. He forgives us our sins, and helps us every day. It is worth the ridicule and mocking's. Because this life is short. Then there is heaven. Where we will be forever with our loved ones and God. I can't wait to see my grandparents, and live with Jesus forever. "Eyes have not seen, nor ears heard, what God has prepared for those who love Him." Jesus said.
@Carazaa Sweden is only nominally Christian today. Their rate of atheism is higher than ever, and conditions there have never been better. At the same time, the level of religiosity in a country is in inverse proportion to the level of freedom and prosperity.
Carazaa · F
@LeopoldBloom It has been Christian country for 1000 years, until 1997. And it has never had so many problems until now. I grew up there. I know. People use to not do anything except read the Bible and pray on Sabbath day my grandma told me. Now no one even goes to church. There use to be no crime. Now its rampant. God made Sweden rich, but they forgot their God, and now he is judging Sweden for their sins. Sweden burned top to bottom this summer. God clearly says in the Bible that a country who's God is the Lords will be blessed. But if that country is sinning and forget their God, he will enslave it to their enemies.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger [quote]No you only come from the viewpoint that your god is the only one so evidently that's not what I meant.[/quote]

What did you mean then?

[quote]Skeptics don't believe in faith, yet, they use it every day of their life.[/quote]

Sorry to undercut the premise for your sermon, but that's a straw man.

Skeptics will contend that faith is not a reliable way of knowing, not that we never take anything on faith in our daily lives.
Although that sort of brings us into the murky waters of faith vs trust.
Carazaa · F
@CookieLuvsBunny Yes, God slowly brings a country down, you're right.
Carazaa · F
@CookieLuvsBunny And as Jesus said that the last generation will see increased terrors, selfishness, and natural disasters. Sweden was on fire top to bottom this summer, ALL of Sweden. I believe it is a punishment for our sins. Terrible materialism, hateful towards immigrants, and forgetting about our God who blessed this country more than any other. We are living in the days that Jesus will return. we have to repent if we want Gods blessings.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Carazaa
[quote]hateful towards immigrants[/quote]
It is the opposite. Angela Merkel's social engineering has forced Sweden to accept immigrants who are destroying the country at every turn.
karysma · 31-35, F
Faith is trusting that God's taking care of everything in your life and you don't have worry about the future
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pfuzylogic It’s never been reliable. But it is useful.
Pfuzylogic · M
@QuixoticSoul
The understanding of “space” has changed since the early 60s,
Back in the day all of this stuff of dark energy/neutrinos and dark matter wasn’t considered as possible sources of error let alone galactic noise. Even the inflexibility of the time-Space fabric Wasn’t involved in error analysis. Now scientists are not intimidated by the structure of the previous experts. The ones that had strongholds. Science will grow like it hasn’t before and I strongly feel the holding onto previous models will change. It has to. Observations are contradicting everything that has been established.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You mean uniformitarianism. Improve the assumption of extrapolation was incorrect@QuixoticSoul
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Having faith in science and oneself is good.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@GodSpeed63 The use of it has deceloped? I agree with that..it's called learning. Also evolving.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 [quote]An unsupported claim.[/quote]

Very supported fact.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
No there us a difference. It us not evolving. @Entwistle
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
A crutch for the delusional, simple minded and dependent to lean on.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 It would depend on which dictionary and which part of the definition. It's also important to consider current common usage as that may also have a significant impact on the word's usage.

As you would be aware, most scientific articles will provide a working definition of any words or terms used that may have the potential for misinterpretation. The current discussion appears to be using numerous working definitions of the same words. Until a consensus can be reached on definitions, the discussion will be useless.
Reverend · M
@Bushranger So the root meaning of the word. Does it not matter any longer?
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Reverend If you mean the original meaning, then not always. If you take the word decimate, it originally meant to kill one in ten. That meaning is still current, but is rarely used. To decimate now means to kill a large proportion.

On a lighter note, the word bludger is an Australian term denoting a lazy person. It's origin is a British slang term denoting a pimp who steals money from his prostitute's clients.

So you can see that definitions and usage change over time.

Definitions used here are from the Oxford Online Dictionary.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
For me, faith is the belief in something without evidence that it exists. There's nothing wrong with that, provided that whatever you have faith in doesn't influence every part of your life and make you no longer believe in things that can be proved.

Some skeptics may have faith in something that can't be proved, but I think it's not correct to imply that all skeptics do. For example, it's possible for a skeptic to believe in God.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
So you slow down and stop at every intersection because somebody else might pull out?@QuixoticSoul
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Speedyman I watch for eye contact and other indications that the person has seen me and is indeed waiting for me. Otherwise, yes, I often do. Drivers are idiots.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul It's amazing that the majority of drivers who make eye contact are just lining you up for a hit.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Faith is praying to God to cure your child of diabetes and the child dying instead because that actually happened.
@Bushranger The first one I ever remember was the moon is made of cheese. lol
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@canusernamebemyusername Ah, the old childhood myth. I guess we all fell for that one at some time in our childhoods. Check out Sci Man Dan on Youtube. He debunks a lot of the flat earth bull.
@Bushranger Ah innocence. lol
kodiac · 22-25, M
I'll admit i know very little about your bible or your god ,but let me ask .What does this evil eating the apple mean ? Is it that two people had sex ? If so why would your god create people that had only one purpose ,to have sex and make babies to continue the species then make that wrong????? Make that sin ? If that's the case following gods plan the species would have ended with those first two mythical man and women .Am i supposed to believe a new born baby already has sin attached ? You say we all have sinned ,how ?JUST BY BEING BORN?
@Bushranger Church membership or lack thereof will not prevent one from being saved. Many churches do have imperfect doctrines, some more thoroughly corrupted. The bible says we are saved by grace through faith in Christ, faith defined in the Greek word for faith, as trusting in, relying on, and adhering to, period. Membership or lack thereof in a church has ZERO bearing on whether or not one is saved. Those that teach one must be a member of this or that church to be saved don't take passages on being saved by grace through faith seriously or they twist them to mean things they don't mean.
@Bushranger More corrupted churches may not TEACH how to be saved properly. That is the ONLY sense in them blocking people from being saved. More corrupted churches can make it harder to grow spiritually properly.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@CookieLuvsBunny Yup. Augustine had a fit about some religious movement that said that people could make their own choices without divine (or something I'm paraphrasing so it's not accurate.)

Even though this religious movement was Christian. He wrote "the fall," in a tantrum fit about this movement. I've always wondered if Augustine read the Epic of Gilgamesh at some point in time and spun it as his own, it's funny how people actually take Dungeons and Dragons story as like literal (no offense to D&D players, it sounds fun by the way.) 🤣
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Why would god punish the children of the parents that hate him?
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@SpiritualMan [quote]See you took MY statement out of context. [/quote]
You missed my point which was simply that you wouldn't know if you had been brainwashed.

[quote]I have resolved many contradictions by studying the context.[/quote]
Can you give an example? Just one will do.

[quote]Maybe what you call dubious is actually true.[/quote]
Or maybe what you believe (or have been brainwashed to believe) is true is actually dubious at best.

I broke free of christianity completely, not just the "programming". :)
@suzie1960 I do need time to list some, I will do so later. I am at work now.
Carazaa · F
@SpiritualMan I so agree that we have to know our entire Bibles to make a judgment, not just the particular passage, but test it against ALL scripture. I did not go to church in my youth (except once or twice with my grandma,) God saved me at 7 yrs. old, and my Mom told me I could not go to church. I read the Bible cover to cover as a child from 7yrs old every day asking God to give me wisdom and live my life for Him. He gave me wisdom. I know my Bible well. When we moved to the USA the churches were teaching wrong doctrine and the world is in a sad state because of it. Jesus says that Satan will stand in the Holy place and many wrong doctrines are currently being taught. Jesus is coming in this generation, and people don't know it because many pastors do not know their Bibles. They water it down to make people feel good and to increase their popularity. When it says "ALL have sinned." He means "ALL have sinned." There is "NONE righteous, no not one." God says that "we go astray in our mothers wombs." We are sinners by genetics and we have to be saved By God to enter heaven. When God saved Noah, he killed all except 8 people, because ALL were sinners and not saved, babies, with their parents died. It is sad but true. Only 8 people were saved. Jesus says that many will say to me "I preached in your name, and I will say to you, I never knew you"
kodiac · 22-25, M
As a child i saw those pics of jesus where he is sitting looking like some dude that just left woodstock ,with little children and animals gathered at his feet where everyone is welcome and loved and the world is perfect .@godspeed Where is that in your posts ? Now i see people talking about only themselves if your god is real do you think he would be impressed with your my way or the highway vision of what he wants ?Are you so arrogant that you believe you are his messenger? Everyone should be welcome in his house not only people who accept your explanation ,which really explains nothing except your this is truth accept it or go away. The threats of hellfire and damnation,a great being striking people with lightening bolts ,people being cast into hell . So your god rules by intimidation?Even if i did believe i would not believe your version .
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@kodiac The Bible does speak of this issue quite extensively. It says that anyone who's ignorant will be forgiven due to ignorance. However it also says that anyone who practices willful ignorance will not be forgiven (such as you are doing through not taking heed to the words of /just in this moment/ 3 christians).
kodiac · 22-25, M
@MartinTheFirst Thank god your here to save me !🙏 To show me the error of my ways,according to your rules .I think your willfully ignorant for believing things you can't possibly prove .
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@kodiac your disrespect doesnt really affect me, but God does see your behavior.
midnightoker · 61-69, M
If 'Faith' was based on evidence then it would be called 'Knowledge'...... It isn't because it isn't..
Entwistle · 56-60, M
So you cant provide a link then? Okay.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
as you're obviously not interested in any information of any kind which doesn't suit your own bigotry there is no point@Entwistle
Entwistle · 56-60, M
I am interested in you providing a link to any validated proof of Jesus Christ's actual existence.
Please spread Jesus message by proving to me he existed. Post a valid link.
Skeptics don't have faith; we have [i]trust[/i] (or lack of trust). They're not the same thing.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]Metaphysical "truth" depends on your presuppositions.[/quote]

Not a chance. What you don't understand is that I don't have the truth but the Truth has me.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@GodSpeed63 Silly platitude #154678
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@QuixoticSoul [quote] Silly platitude #154678[/quote]

What's silly about it? It's the truth.
I believe it is nice that you share scripture here and, as a believer, I am, at times, uplifted to happen upon one of your posts. However, you are sharing the word of God...people who know and believe in him are guided by the holy spirit in learning and understanding his words. People who do not believe, who are not spirit-led, will never be reached in the manner in which you are trying.

A christian cannot beat people over the head with a book and expect them to believe. Ain't gonna happen. It is our job to live according to the word and be an example of Christ's love to those around us. There is not a single person on this planet who will bring another person to Christ. Only the Holy Trinity can do such a thing...the only thing we are supposed to do is share and love and remain steadfast in our faith. That's it.

I realize I may sound stupid and simple, but it gets tiring watching believers act like fools by throwing out scripture like it's going to magically change someone's mind. Not our job!
@SpiritualMan agreed. And I should have kept my thoughts to myself. I know better than to discuss religion here.
@Pinkstarburst Honestly. if what I say makes sense, and if it takes context of bible verses into consideration, if many other Christians disagree and get offended, I don't care. Truth is my defense.
No, I don’t think you should. Everyone has a right to their own opinion here, and we can all learn from each other. No one has to agree with each other. That’s what this forum is for, it makes it interesting to hear how others feel about things, but personally, I’d like to much rather hear salvation shared here, than prophecy. I just think that should come first, but that’s just me. People are lead in different ways by God, on how they wish to convey the Word.

It’s ok to disagree with me. 💓 I imagine many do. 😆 That certainly doesn’t change my feelings about you, and shouldn’t. We just have different opinions. Some techniques I prefer over others, and never approve of scare tactics, but keep those thoughts to myself. I think when it comes to the point where people are arguing back and forth on here about religion, it’s definitely time to shut that discussion down, as it is a very bad example to others, and turns people OFF and AWAY from Christ. I’m not for that at all. Love ya, my friend. @Pinkstarburst
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Speedyman · 70-79, M
People who have no argument resort to personal abuse. Thank you for admitting you have run out of argument@SW-User
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
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Oh...Amen, Brother!! I love that Hebrews 11, verse 3 you used. What a blessing! Faith is all [b]about[/b] believing. We don’t know how certain things will happen, but we know they will. It’s taking God at His lovely Word, and trusting Him to keep it. We know He’s [b]no liar[/b]. He always keeps His Word. Faith doesn’t put a demand on God. We already know He’s trustworthy and reliable, and who are WE to question Almighty God of this universe, or even ASSUME we are smarter and wiser than He? Only a fool would believe that. [b]Faith moves us into God’s [u]already existing supply of blessings[/u][/b]. Thank you, Jesus!!
Faith is Jesus

I’ll explain.
Crudely maybe.

Jude - right before revelations in the bible. - the writer of Jude start out saying he wants to talk to his readers about salvation. But felt it necessary to talk about faith instead. So, salvation and faith are not one in the same as it is sometimes implied.
Salvation in this instance, the greek word means healed, delivered, made whole, redeemed, kept sound. - it does not mean faith.

Hebrews 12:1-2 -  Therefore let us also, seeing we are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto [b]Jesus the author and perfecter of our faith[/b], who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising shame, and hath sat down at the right hand of the throne of God

so we are to look to Jesus - by fixing our eyes on what is in front of us, on Jesus, we become transformed and changed into something new. Because by beholding you become changed. (See Corinthians 3:18) Reminds me of many quotes in all sorts of literature - my favorite being Kurt Vonneguts Mother night - We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. - If our focus is on Jesus, that is who we start to emulate. Our focus is what defines us. So, knowing who you are and what you are through Jesus is key here. And another topic.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

So faith was authored and perfected by Jesus. If something is authored, it has substance, and according to the last passage faith is substance. Faith is also the evidence of things not seen. So, Faith has substance and evidence.

John 1: 1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made.

Through Jesus all things in existence came to be. He spoke the worlds into existence and then he stepped into and lived life in accordance to that which was already spoken. While in the desert he was tempted by satan to turn a rock into bread. Which he could have done - being the creator of all things - but Jesus is unwilling to in this instance because he is unwilling to speak or live outside of the will of his father. Jesus lives a life of evidence of what it looks like to live in faith.

Jesus, who is the substance ( the author and perfecter of faith) , came to provide evidence of how we should live. - he is the substance and the evidence.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@Theliberal SWEETIE??!!!!!!! I rest my case 🤷‍♀️
Theliberal · 36-40, M
@Harriet03 sweetie i didnt realize you had a case 🤷‍♂️
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Harriet03 [quote]If he thinks he's doing very well, he's a idiot![/quote]

Would you rather have Him let cancer have it's own way?
Carazaa · F
@Godspeed63 Regarding babies, Who has sinned?

"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

"It is written, there is none righteous, no not one. Romans 3:10
@Carazaa I found the passage. I am starting a new thread, too much scrolling, and I do have an answet, how can an infant tell a lie, come on now, before they speak?

I will answer with the full context in a little bit.
Carazaa · F
@SpiritualMan Jesus raising people from the dead is [i]absolutely[/i]
symbolizing Salvation! Jesus asked What is harder to say "forgive sins or raise people from the dead?" And he proved he can forgive sins, by raising Lazarus from the dead. He did it only to prove he is God Almighty, and is the only one who can forgive sins.
@Carazaa check me new thread, what about context?
[quote]Skeptics don't believe in faith, yet, they use it every day of their life.[/quote]

Amen, brother, AMEN.
Pfuzylogic · M
I love that you can post something in Religon and be about Faith and some people that are contemptuous of Religon feel free to comment on it.

Faith to me is knowing that God does exist and that God is a loving God and acting in life based on that knowledge.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pfuzylogic That's a very low bar for an insult. And viewing Hawking as a religious pretender or a wannabe priest is... highly unusual.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Hawking was a good physicist but for goodness sake don't tell me you had anything to tell me about the philosophy of life any more than my milkman@QuixoticSoul
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Speedyman Depends on the milkman, I suppose. Don't discriminate.

I wouldn't put him down for any special knowledge, of course. But then again I never do.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
Faith is hope. And both grows as we strive to follow the gospel. 😊
Allelse · 36-40, M
Faith is believing in something where no evidence exists to support it.
Allelse · 36-40, M
@SpiritualMan Well do they?
@Allelse That question is not worth an answer.
Allelse · 36-40, M
@SpiritualMan So they do? Well that makes sense.
Thank you for the work you put into this lovely testimony of faith. I absolutely love all the examples.
Believing without having a videotape of it. I had faith that OJ Simpson killed his wife and it did not take much faith either.
CARRY ON, BROTHER!!
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
Means: "Credo quia absurdum" "I believe because it is absurd"
kodiac · 22-25, M
All this to explain a feeling?????Faith is a feeling maybe even an emotion .Just because we don't have the same feelings doesn't make either of us right or wrong in the big picture.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@GodSpeed63 Yes . I hear people every day say they feel god or feel happy knowing are born again .You feel your faith don't you?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@kodiac Faith isn't a feeling, son, it's trusting God which those early men of God did, no matter what their circumstances were.
Amen, brother!!! @GodSpeed63
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]Feel free to post polls and other sources which refute them.[/quote]

Here's another source for you.

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Christian population growth is the population growth of the global Christian community. According to a 2011 Pew Research Center survey, there were 2.19 billion Christians around the world in 2010, more than three times as many as the 600 million recorded in 1910. However, this rate of growth is slower than the overall population growth over the same time period.[1] According to a 2015 Pew Research Center study, by 2050, the Christian population is expected to be 3.0 billion.[2]

Shall I go on?
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
Faith to me means that if I cultivate my mind, I will live the best life I can.
SW-User
A personal feeling that helps a person to cope and move forward through uncertain/dark times should they should to believe in that
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
We hold faith in that our brains annalyse the real word realistically and that our brains aren't needed to interpret something for it to exist. That's called believing in realism. That should tell you quite a bit about what i think faith is.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@MartinTheFirst Wasn't talking to you, my friend.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@GodSpeed63 then don't write it to me with my name tagged, dude.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@MartinTheFirst My mistake, forgive me.

 
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