@puck61 Yes, the old "if God didn't create everything, where did it come from" argument. But this fails to explain where God came from. I know, "God was always here."
The fact that you can't see the obvious flaw in this argument doesn't say much for your intelligence.
By the way, I was raised in a religious household, probably one that was more religious than yours. I probably know ten times more about your religion than you do.
You're best off just ending the world. This species isn't nearly smart enough to stop causing its own problems, let alone betray the obvious lies it's been conditioned to believe.
@irishmolly72 Hitler was, by all relevant accounts, a theist, and Mao worshipped himself so hard that he basically considered himself a god. Anyway, have you guys forgotten about theists who are assholes, like King Leopold II, Bendito Mussolini, and, more recently, figures like Mugabe, Bin laden, Khameni, and Putin? I'm not even trying to make some argument for the moral supremacy of atheists here, but come on-- there's no shortage of examples either way.
@HoraceGreenley I'll use Samuel Johnson's proof - drop a heavy rock on your toe, and then tell me that you have no way to verify if it hurts or not. This is evidence from personal experience. Claiming that God exists is not the same thing, unless you personally met him or something.
@puck61 So? That's just a stereotype, and it probably comes from the fact taht atheists don't... particularly wave around a metaphorical flag of atheism while we're helping people out; most of us do it just to do it. The generally low number of people who identify as atheists probably doesn't help, either. Your argument basically boils down to your own lack of knowledge.
Your argument basically boils down to your own lack of knowledge.
Dude, I fecking know everything and I'm immortal! I taught Billy J Sidis everything he knew, and I scratched up the trajectory data for Apollo 11 on bar napkin while I was blacked out on vodka! Oppenheimer used to copy off my paper in school, and I invented the internet, so don't 'even' go there!