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Yes we are all bored of talking about Meghan but... [I Got Something To Say]

Bit tired of the rhetoric, much of it ill-informed. Remember .. saying something doesn't make it true! Harry he has openly spoken of his regret at leaving and how he will miss his duties. It's clear he was torn between his country, his love for his grandmother and the job he was raised to do, enjoyed and did very well until now.. and the love for his wife.. I am sure he had mixed feelings but he has expressed regret at leaving - so the trapped story doesn't wash and to me it's more likely he's trapped by something other than the monarchy.

Personally if they want to go away, I can live with that, it's sad, I'd have prefered they stay and work it out but if they want anonymity they need not to be blabbing to anyone who will listen! We know what Meghan said as they have reported what she said.. and our press do report accurately and I am afraid things are just not as she said them.. for instance..
-There have been NO racist remarks in the newspapers here. none.
- Any racist remarks were not in the mainstream, and regardless of where they were they are illegal.
- Yes, illegal! Rightly so!!
- Yes the press at times have vilified her.. but they've done the same to other celebs and other royal brides..
- look at Diana
- Look at Fergie.. all those have suffered badly in the press.
- And even Kate has had her fair share of nastiness
- Remember before you judge the Brit press - about the kinds of things American newpapers write about people...
- Remember racist remarks aren't illegal there
- Remarks on Twitter etc.. may be racist.. they too are illegal. but they are not within the control of the monarchy..
- no one can stop every nasty remark - but it doesn't mean it's racist or worse for her than anyone else.
- There have been many lovely and flattering remarks in the newspapers same with Kate etc
- Same with any celeb - it's never all nice..
- The British people in general demonstrated many love her.
- No one's ever 100% popular
- Yes they seem to like Kate better but then again Kate is a very different person, dignified and likeable.
- her wedding was very well attended by the public..
- Kids hugged her, people cheered and adored whenever she performed duties
- Archie has not been denied a title. he'd be a lord.. or Duke.. is that not good enough?
- He would also be a Prince if Charles becomes king as the grandson of the monarch..
- other than that the title Prince is strictly in terms of succession and he is down the line a bit.. no nastiness - just inheritance and protocol.
- As to security. . UK is a whole lot safer than pretty much anywhere in the US..
- so if she were afraid for her life or her child's she'd have stayed in the UK
- If she wanted security - she'd have stayed in the UK
- Important to know the UK people pay for that protection in their taxes.
- It isn't the monarchy who pay for it and it wasn't the monarchy who removed the security
- Most of the UK public don't mind paying for security for royals that are working and doing the job we pay them for.
- Remember WE pay their wages.. literally... they are paid to do a job
- If they choose not to do the job and to move away they CANNOT expect the UK people to pay for their protection!!!


Personally, I don't like her.. I didn't from the first time I saw her.. she looks manipulative to me. I only learned about her rep after that.. and there's enough there to support that idea and *that* comes from her homeland. Does that make me racist? No, so this virtue signalling and playing the racist card here is inappropriate and it doesn't wash.
- Are Brits perfect NO, is there racism here - YES - should we step up and keep working to eliminate it YES but honestly people shouting racism when it isn't are really not helping any cause.
PS no need to reply.. I just wanted to get my thoughts out there..
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REMsleep · 41-45, F Best Comment
Im black and American. I don't follow them or Royals but since I've loosely watched Harry grow up and always liked him and especially when he began dating a half black American I was more interested.
She is bad news maybe not on purpose.
She never publicized her mixed ethnicity till the hate began on her. She felt far removed from it I think. Now she's " so black".

I have no doubt that she experienced a hard time in the palace and probably wasn't fully accepted but the main problem is her way of handling things.
She never once admitted any faults in that interview.
Harry has had a love hate with his role in life due to his loyalty to his mom and the mess she went thru.
Meghan was the catalyst for all of this. She seems spoiled although I won't deny some bad things happened to her.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@REMsleep Totally agree pretty much with everything you said.. Brit public were generally very fond of Harry from the time we all saw him follow his mother's coffin. How mixed must be his feelings and isn't it natural he'd want to protect his wife in a way he felt no one protected his mother..

The Queen was always nice to her she said.. let's face it.. if the Queen and firm weren't happy for them to marry it wouldn't have happened in the way it was.. Everyone hoped for the best.. everyone tried..

But it wasn't enough for Meghan. I can get that it's a tough call.. Diana found that and so did Sarah Ferguson.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
I somehow didn't expect 'truth' so much as 'sensationalism' from that interview.
And when you want to drag Oprah.....of all people, out of 'retirement' to do it....

Whatever the truth of it, it was always going to play out like a soap opera the second they decided to go to America.....of all places !
I mean they could have gone to Canada and the whole thing may have played out differently.

Bigger question for me is, what now ?
What is she/he/they hoping will happen after this 'event' ?

Some sort of 'sponsored world tour' ? For what purpose ? Other than charging a fortune for photo ops.
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
If my pregnant wife doesn’t feel comfortable living amongst my family, we’re not staying. Harry did the right thing by taking his wife’s mental health as a priority and getting out. Maybe they can reconcile at a later date but it shouldn’t be at the expense of Megan’s feelings.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Quetzalcoatlus And I wouldn't necessarily disagree. I've kinda acknowledged the very difficult position Harry was in.. He saw his own mother hurt by what she perceived was bullying and intimidation and being hounded by the press..

Diana as we know wasn't black.. which is a valid point.

He chose to support his wife... that was his choice..

But.. he wasn't living amongst his family was he.. he had a massive place of his own.. and enough money to move wherever he wanted.. with security to protect him..

But she says the Queen was never anything other than nice and she WOULD have given her blessing for the marriage.. so there wasn't any racism there..

But he wasn't just anyone.. either was he.. he has given up way more than anyone else would in the same circumstances.. it may be right that he chose to go.. but he lost his job, his family, his status, his security protection, ALL the charities and work he did.. his OWN brother... everything

One might ponder, regardless of whether we are right or wrong to do so.. about whether it was worth it.. a good wife is always worth protecting.. but what about one who causes you to lose your family and everything you knew.. just saying.. and what if that wife has a track record of falling out with people including her own family, what if her mental health has more to do with not wanting to be upstaged, thinking she could have it all her own way.. what if Harry, poor naive, lost soul, so wanting to do the right thing is just a puppet for this woman.. all just speculation .. but time will tell..

I'd finally ask you to reflect too.. what about the Queen's feelings.. his father's his brothers ( they were always so close.. look at the wedding.. and soon after.. then it started to go wrong.. ) what about the Brit public who so love Harry and remember him walking behind his coffin... Megan isn't the only one in this..
If you want to discuss further feel free to PM as I always close posts after 24 hrs
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
So do you not remember Danny Baker Tweeting a picture with Archie dressed as a monkey? Do you not consider that racism?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48212693
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@AntisocialTroll Baker is renound for doing dumb stuff and 'putting his foot in it'.
Been his stock in trade for employment for the last thirty odd years.

Can't say i've ever known him to be outwardly racist though.
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Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@AntisocialTroll it depends on whether you associate monkeys with black people.. personally I don't. Do you? Do most people? Isn't that the problem then?
If Danny Baker did that then of course that's wrong. However, that does not mean that most of the press were racist or that she suffered because she was black - she suffered because she is a woman that puts many people's backs up. Think of all the people you dislike intensely.. is it because of their colour or because they are horrible, shallow, selfish, manipulating? I think you have your answer..
It would be interesting to see what happened as a result of Danny Baker's insults.. and what was behind them.

Update. Danny Baker got fired for what he did.. Ok so now tell me that people in the UK think racism is acceptable? Clearly it isn't! Yet we've seen Trump et all hurling racist abuse like it's the latest trend!

I draw attention finally to my final words in my original post. racism is here.. it IS wrong, whenever and if ever it happens.. you wont hear me say different. I believe no black person ever lives a life without being affected by racism.. that's for sure and that's not ok. it's something we have to work on. .BUT to say that 99% of what Meghan is whining about derived from racism, is, I am afraid, a disservice to black people everywhere. It wasn't racism.. she was accepted into the clan, and everyone hoped it would be good.. it wasn't and she played the biggest part in that.
You are welcome to discuss pm if you would like
smiler2012 · 56-60
@Adaydreambeliever yes this could become a hot topic of conversation on similiar worlds fair enough every one is entitled to a view but we do not want to get engulfed like we did over the orange one 😆
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@smiler2012 I really hope not!! I want them to face into obscurity.
RedBaron · M
Is whatever the royal family members do actually a job?
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@RedBaron Well that's a debatable point. But they do get paid to perform official duties and to represent the UK around the world on official tours and in meeting and greeting dignitaries.
Whether they are worth the money we pay, well that's debateable.
smiler2012 · 56-60
@RedBaron 🤫 difficult if you call travelling the world as ambassadors for this country a job well the answer is yes i suppose
But your always automatically on the side of the weird.. so there’s that..
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout 'you're' no fuckwits need comment :P
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