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SW-User
They don't lose value as an individual they lose value in the dating and relationship game. Also it's women that initiate divorce at 60 - 70 percent rate so it's women abandoning relationships not men. The reason women struggle after divorce is because men and women are valued for different things. A man is valued for what he can provide and his experience where women are valued for their youth beauty purity and fertility. The things women value in men take time to build and the things men value in women dwindle over time.
Eternity · 26-30, M
@SW-User wow you basically said exactly what i said but 9 hours sooner lol
helsbels · 31-35, F
I personally feel more empowered and independent and happy as I get older but on a wider scale there are definitely plenty of examples like yours.
I think it is true in society that as women get older there is a risk to be less 'seen' or feel less relevent. If they have children, who need them less as they get older themselves, it can be like their 'purpose' is fulfilled and they don't know what to do for themselves.
I think it is true in society that as women get older there is a risk to be less 'seen' or feel less relevent. If they have children, who need them less as they get older themselves, it can be like their 'purpose' is fulfilled and they don't know what to do for themselves.
graphite · 61-69, M
70% of divorces are filed by women. And Average Joe Middle-Class Middle-Age Guy is not going to fetch himself a 20something.
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graphite · 61-69, M
@iamonfire696 I bring up 100% actual facts and cite a celebrity marriage that was the exception, so that. makes the facts I presented wrong? 🤣
https://dadsdivorce.com/articles/dads-represent-85-of-child-support-providers-pay-more-than-female-payers/#:~:text=Men%20account%20for%2085%25%20of,as%20much%20as%20male%20providers.
https://dadsdivorce.com/articles/dads-represent-85-of-child-support-providers-pay-more-than-female-payers/#:~:text=Men%20account%20for%2085%25%20of,as%20much%20as%20male%20providers.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@graphite No one cares what you think….
graphite · 61-69, M
@iamonfire696 That's OK, as long I what I present is factually correct.
I’ve noticed I feel better about who I am as I age but it doesn’t really make me feel good in the grand scheme because now that I see my worth, nobody cares, nobody sees.
Now that I’m ready to be seen and share this deep realization of love inside me, most men my age are jaded by the issues marriage caused them. They stayed with some Karen too long and their feelings were never considered. They like the idea of me being my own beautiful person, but they still don’t want all of me because they’re tired of putting in the work.
They just want their dicks sucked and for me to continue dealing with everything because I’m strong. But I’m tired. It took a lot of work to get to this place within on my own and I want to share, not be a mommy to a grown man.
Now that I’m ready to be seen and share this deep realization of love inside me, most men my age are jaded by the issues marriage caused them. They stayed with some Karen too long and their feelings were never considered. They like the idea of me being my own beautiful person, but they still don’t want all of me because they’re tired of putting in the work.
They just want their dicks sucked and for me to continue dealing with everything because I’m strong. But I’m tired. It took a lot of work to get to this place within on my own and I want to share, not be a mommy to a grown man.
littlepuppywantanewlife · 31-35, M
That's a sad thing. Because there is no love left in them and people don't make efforts these days. People like me who are ageing have hard luck to find love because financial position matters.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@littlepuppywantanewlife do not forget that people in general do not really love anyone, they just care about what they can get out of someone.
littlepuppywantanewlife · 31-35, M
@CestManan Yes. But then what about true feelings for someone who have?
Justenjoyit · 61-69, M
@CestManan Quiet please lol
CestManan · 46-50, F
You know you are going to aggravate lot of women with this post.
One thing older women say is "I get hit on more now than I am older." which may be true but I do not think college men or creeps at a gas station really count.
Even if it is quality men their own age, they might ask out the women because if she rejects, it doesn't really hurt as much as if it were rejection by someone they actually want.
One thing older women say is "I get hit on more now than I am older." which may be true but I do not think college men or creeps at a gas station really count.
Even if it is quality men their own age, they might ask out the women because if she rejects, it doesn't really hurt as much as if it were rejection by someone they actually want.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@MyNameIsHurl probably not.
MyNameIsHurl · 41-45, F
@CestManan definitely not, hahaha
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@CestManan I’ve seen a lot of women say this and I wanted them to be able to openly speak on the issue. As a younger woman I definitely see what they mean. Nobody is invaluable ESPECIALLY women but it seems like men feel that way and find the behavior like in my example justified
Eternity · 26-30, M
All things add up to null; nature has a tendency to balance all things.
Women have a massive advantage early in life, but as we age women begin to lose their edge and men begin to pass them up.
It is because of what most men value vs what most women value.
Men are highly physical, women are highly material.
When we are young we are physically pleasing and typically become less so as we age
When we are young we don't have much but if we play our cards right we tend to accrue more and more material value as we age.
Therefore, men tend to appreciate with time and women tend to depreciate with time.
Women have a massive advantage early in life, but as we age women begin to lose their edge and men begin to pass them up.
It is because of what most men value vs what most women value.
Men are highly physical, women are highly material.
When we are young we are physically pleasing and typically become less so as we age
When we are young we don't have much but if we play our cards right we tend to accrue more and more material value as we age.
Therefore, men tend to appreciate with time and women tend to depreciate with time.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Society consists of much more than just the opinions of dull middle aged men. As I get older I get closer to financial autonomy. I no longer have to demean myself by taking paid employment from people I have no respect for. Eventually I will be able to quit the rat race, retrain as a teacher and devote my energies to the education and care of young people. The job will not be accurately valued by our market economy, but I will nevertheless feel valued and rewarded by a small rise in the level of civilisation 🙂
SW-User
Depends what they mean with value.
That's very subjective.
If it's value based on looks, yes, but men too, unless they have a great financial position? And women with great financial positions can be as powerful too.
Value as to find a partner? Well different tastes, but in that sense men can have more possibilities to find someone even being old, but mostly if they have money.
And anyway money can't buy love so isn't that they're much better.
So yeah it's subjective.
That's very subjective.
If it's value based on looks, yes, but men too, unless they have a great financial position? And women with great financial positions can be as powerful too.
Value as to find a partner? Well different tastes, but in that sense men can have more possibilities to find someone even being old, but mostly if they have money.
And anyway money can't buy love so isn't that they're much better.
So yeah it's subjective.
pride49 · 31-35, M
Rich women should dump more men for younger ones to even the balance. Then again most rich women I've seen in movies kill theirspouse without getting caught so .. idk
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@graphite good for them. makes up for all the dads who don't pay (kidding) 😭
graphite · 61-69, M
@DeluxedEdition The vast majority of dads with child support orders pay. If he loses his job and suddenly can't pay, he can go to jail. The vast majority who don't pay earn poverty level wages. The notion of the high-flying deadbeat driving around in his Porsche with trophy wife in tow, while his kids and ex wife starve, is a myth. Law enforcement when dads can't pay child support: "Throw the deadbeat in jail!" Law enforcement when mom ignores visitation orders and won't let dad see his kids: zzzzzzz. (Saw a TV show the other day where a guy spent 5 years in jail for non-payment of child support for a kid who wasn't even his.)
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@graphite I never said that was okay or fair just to clarify
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
Only if the only thing they have to offer is looks or have a profession that heavily focuses on the appearance of their workers but their positions are easily replaceable, like flight attendants or waiters. Or if they do professional sports, but in that case that applies to both genders.
Purplehaze78 · 46-50, F
I personally don't think people in general lose value in society as we age.
With age comes experience, skills, and knowledge. Physically, it depends on how we take care of ourselves when we're younger. It does have an impact when we get older.
With age comes experience, skills, and knowledge. Physically, it depends on how we take care of ourselves when we're younger. It does have an impact when we get older.
MyNameIsHurl · 41-45, F
Psssh. I become more valuable with time.
Kumar007 · 36-40, M
Bit controversy
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
pop music is geared towards young women not 100 year old relics of the last ice age
MyNameIsHurl · 41-45, F
@pancakeslam pop music is garbage
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
@MyNameIsHurl never said it wasn't
MyNameIsHurl · 41-45, F
@pancakeslam oh I thought you did say that
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
I said this because it’s true.
I don’t think it should be this way but it is this way. I see a man laughed at this. Of course he would because it’s not the same for him.
You see it here all of the time. Married men interacting with young females like 18-21 F and they could be their father or grandfather.
You can be damn sure that if they actually had a chance they would take it.
I don’t think it should be this way but it is this way. I see a man laughed at this. Of course he would because it’s not the same for him.
You see it here all of the time. Married men interacting with young females like 18-21 F and they could be their father or grandfather.
You can be damn sure that if they actually had a chance they would take it.